Jay Bird

Please take a look at this, if you can.....

http://www.britishmeat.com/veal.html

Sally Redux

I applaud you, it annoys me when people denigrate attempts to reduce animal cruelty by saying, "Oh that's not valid because you still do xyz". Every little helps.

Arris

Exactly,

In Britain we have what's known as rose veal (apparently much more humane) , if male calves are not used for veal then they are slaughtered at a matter of days old as they have no further use ie. milk production (obviously)

On the continent created veal is still consumed regularly unfortunately

daft batty

For, money, and so for food. Not many jobs otherwise for the hunters.

Flogger

veal is just beef slaughted around the age of six months or less about the same age as lamb. if we want the vast amount of dairy milk we currently consume, veal is the necessary, but not too evil (in the case of rose veal) outcome.

Arris

I know what you're saying - if we don't agree with veal (a lot of British veal calves are sent to the continent) we should give up cows milk in the hope of stopping calves being used for veal.

dbd33

It's quite usual here for people to have one or two crated calves, just as they might have backyard chickens. Animal welfare is, I think, primarily a European and urban concern.

hot wasabi peas

I'm Canadian... I dislike the seal hunt because I dislike cute things being hurt. I can not even drain peas without a stray pea going down the sink alone... I always send another to keep the first company. (Yes, I'm that pathetic).

I'm also an anthropologist and I understand the histo-socio-culturio- importance the seal hunt has with various indigenous and non-indigenous communities. I'm also aware of the exploitation involved in the commercial gain various 'hunters' have who are not a part of either of these two groups.

It's not a simple "It's a bad thing, it should end" thing... to think in those terms is to not understand the complexity of 'the hunt'... historically, socially, economically, etc ...

Myself, my gutteral reaction, is 'ugh, I hate it' but it's not as simplistic as that.

Plus... as a west coaster I think... "effing east coasters..."

hot wasabi peas

Rich_007

<let them starve/eat cake/die of cold/whine to death/be crushed by ice storms/suffocate in the great rush for welfare day>

R.

Rich_007

Yes but to be objective, you must disclose the full story - that the hound bit a man's testicles.

R.

Jay Bird

Of course!
Ooops - noticed I mispelled "annoying", which is what I meant!

Jay Bird

Judging by this comment you obviously haven't read the link I provided, which is fine, but don't make rash comments. Veal is NOT "just beef slaughtered....".

If anyone is interested in learning about the lives of animals raised on farms, read Jeffrey Moussieff Masson's book "The Pig Who Sang to the Moon"

The4BellsLondon

[QUOTE=hot wasabi peas;6130392]I'm Canadian... I dislike the seal hunt because I dislike cute things being hurt. I can not even drain peas without a stray pea going down the sink alone... I always send another to keep the first company. (Yes, I'm that pathetic).

glad its not just me that does things like that then!!

Tanah

[QUOTE=hot wasabi peas;6130392]. I can not even drain peas without a stray pea going down the sink alone... I always send another to keep the first company. (Yes, I'm that pathetic).
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ha ha ha ha - im exactly the same - so glad someone else said and not me - lol