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Old Apr 24th 2018, 12:22 am
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Just been announced that a 10th person has died.
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Old Apr 24th 2018, 12:23 am
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
Not unless your name is Sammy yatim

Canada not increasing the threat level ? Why not, even if it is something other than a terror threat why the F not, it makes sense to be wrong with no further casualties and deaths dosnt it !!! FFS Canada stop being so ****ing soft.!!
We have a big presence in my neighbourhood although that could also be concern about Leafs fans rioting should Boston knock them out.

Number of deaths now 10 confirmed.
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There's an Alex Minassian of Richmond Hill who says it's not him and asks the press to stop bugging his family.
I saw that on his page, I left him alone, lot left a comment saying he should close his page. The Alex is wrong, the murdering scum sucking ass bag is an Alek.
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The surname sounds Armenian, which would mean he isn't Muslim. If he does turn out to be an Armenian Muslim that would be highly, highly, highly unusual particularly in the context of that country's geopolitical situation. Religious polarisation in the Caucasus based on ethnic/national factors is high. Pogroms not uncommon, even in recent times.

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Old Apr 24th 2018, 3:40 am
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl

We have noticed recently concrete barriers (Jersey Barriers) around the Rogers Centre stadium/CN Tower/Aquarium/Air Canada Centre/Maple Leaf Square and speculated that the powers that be must have had some sort of tip off. Perhaps they were just being prudent as the tourist season approaches.
They've been doing this for a couple of years now precautionarily since the attacks in London and Paris for Baseball games.
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Old Apr 24th 2018, 3:41 am
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The surname sounds Armenian, which would mean he isn't Muslim. If he does turn out to be an Armenian Muslim that would be highly, highly, highly unusual particularly in the context of that country's geopolitical situation. Religious polarisation in the Caucasus based on ethnic/national factors is high. Pogroms not uncommon, even in recent times.
Looks like a nutter lone wolf.

If he has a political agenda he will be a terrorist.
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Originally Posted by JamesM
Looks like a nutter lone wolf.

If he has a political agenda he will be a terrorist.
I noticed Arabic writing on some of the windows in photos.

I don't know Toronto very well, does that neighbourhood have a lot of migrants from Islamic areas like Pakistan, the Middle East, etc?

Before we brush this aside as another "lone nut" after another one of the "fastest police investigations in history," consider what I wrote earlier about Christian-Muslim pogroms in the part of the world the killer apparently hails from, or at least has lineage from. That sort of baggage doesn't just get automatically dropped behind at a Canadian (or German) border because someone's family migrated. Canadians have certainly already learned that lesson.

Consider why they might have migrated . . .

Inter-ethnic strife being imported to Western countries, is something officials have been worrying about for a while.

So let's not wave this off just yet as a lone nut. It may well be! But certainly a police investigation like this can't be concluded in a matter of a few hours - no matter how politically beneficial that might be to some figures.

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in the part of the world the killer apparently hails from, or at least has lineage from.
Where does he hail from or at least has lineage from and how did that influence his act?
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That's right, I thought the same thing. When the officer reaches into the cruiser what is he doing? There's a little blackout and when the video resumes after that there is a crackling noise that makes me wonder if he deployed a taser and then it's handcuff time.
I believe he's actually turning off the sirens from the car and attempting to talk to the guy.
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I believe he's actually turning off the sirens from the car and attempting to talk to the guy.
Yes, could be. There's a new video from above which fills in the gaps a bit and he does appear to surrender to the officer.

Remarkable restraint from the officer.
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I believe he's actually turning off the sirens from the car and attempting to talk to the guy.
Yep, in the video online today it shows it. Last night I saw one that was shot from above that shows the back and forth dance, the officer holstering his weapon and approaching with his baton as the suspect goes to the sidewalk.
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Yes, could be. There's a new video from above which fills in the gaps a bit and he does appear to surrender to the officer.

Remarkable restraint from the officer.
His actions have US Police scratching their heads..

Toronto van attack: How is the suspect not dead? - BBC News
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His actions have US Police scratching their heads..

Toronto van attack: How is the suspect not dead? - BBC News

Yeah....its only in the trigger happy US that the supspect would have been shot dead.... this situation would have been handled very similar to this in the UK too.

The Sammy Yatim case was a one off I think, but it tarnished the image of the police in Canada.
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Yeah....its only in the trigger happy US that the supspect would have been shot dead.... this situation would have been handled very similar to this in the UK too.

The Sammy Yatim case was a one off I think, but it tarnished the image of the police in Canada.
I think the only reason the suspect isn't dead/ wasn't shot is because the officer was confident he wasn't armed.

Still commendable how he handled it.
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Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
Yeah....its only in the trigger happy US that the supspect would have been shot dead.... this situation would have been handled very similar to this in the UK too.

The Sammy Yatim case was a one off I think, but it tarnished the image of the police in Canada.
I remember watching this video a few years ago and feeling quite proud that this guy wasn't shot. Talk about a team effort!

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