Originally Posted by Alan2005

"Silver Machine" is the obvious one - it's pretty much their only hit.

But I always preferred their more mellow stuff. I like "We Took the Wrong Step Years Ago".

Originally Posted by Novocastrian

It actually happened a long time before 1984, but George Orwell was a Socialist, so he must have been a fool.

Originally Posted by Hawkmoon77

You got me sussed there - Moorcock and HW
Guilty as charged.

Yisselda was cool too.

I was going to use Elric of Melnibone, but that's been done

Originally Posted by Hawkmoon77

I made a list for a Cradle friend on 'where to start with HW'
This is what I came up with

Assault & Battery / The Golden Void (from Warrior at the Edge of Time)
The Psychedelic Warlords Disappear in Smoke / Wind of Change (From Hall of the Mountain Grill)
Quark Strangeness and Charm
Master of the Universe (In Search of Space)
Green Machine (Blood of the Earth)
Time We Left (Space Ritual Vol 2)
Moonglum (Friend without a cause) (Live Chronicles)
Arrival in Utopia (Choose Your Masques)
Right to Decide (Electric Teepee)
High Rise (PXR5)
Flying Doctor (Hawklords 25 years on)
Down through the Night (Doremi Fasol Latido)
Damnation Alley (QS&C)

Originally Posted by Jsmth321

I bought the e-version of the book from amazon. Will take a while to read since reading books on a pc sucks, but hey sounds interesting for 99 cents.

Originally Posted by MarkG

It's because Orwell was a Socialist that he realized that Socialism in the real world inevitably leads to a totalitarian system, if it doesn't collapse first. Back when he wrote 1984, even many on the right didn't understand that.

Originally Posted by Shard

Is there not a public library in Squamish? Book would be a much more enjoyable reading experience than PC screen.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321

There is. They have 1 copy but not currently available. Figured for 99 cents on Amazon, may as well buy the e-book version.

They also have it in e-book version at the library, but you don't get to keep it like with Amazon.

More and more libraries are going e-book, sometimes they don't even have an actual paper copy anymore.

Originally Posted by Shard

Book would be a much more enjoyable reading experience than PC screen.

Originally Posted by Shard

Tablets are good for e-reading.

Originally Posted by Novocastrian

Oh yes of course. I forgot that the Dept. of Homeland Security, the Republican Party, GCHQ, Echalon, the Daily Mail etc., were all part of a socialist plot.

Silly me.

Originally Posted by Shard

I think Amazon are doing a very low cost "Fire" tablet now. About £50 in the UK so probably $99 in Canada. Tablets are good for e-reading. You can probably find some second hand tablets at giveaway prices now too.

Originally Posted by Alan2005

I thought 1984 was about how governments (in general) become more totalitarian over time. Doesn't matter what flavour really. Maybe he's thinking about Animal Farm.

Originally Posted by Oink

While you're right, it was a rather unsubtle warning of the dangers of totalitarianism in general, I think there was a nod to the rather fetish control of Soviet Communist Party. I think Orwell lent more to the broad empowering element of democratic-socialism than elevating the party before the people.

Originally Posted by Alan2005

Yeah. In my defense it has been 30 years since I read it.