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Macsta Dec 5th 2017 7:25 am

Ringgit fluctuation
 
Dear forum brethren,

As someone not in MY what is happening to cause the dramatic recent fluctuation in the MYR?

Any predictions for its fortunes in 2018?

SushiFan Dec 5th 2017 7:34 am

Re: Ringgit fluctuation
 
What "dramatic" fluctuations have you noticed recently?
To be honest, I don't pay any special attention to the exchange rates.

Macsta Dec 5th 2017 7:43 am

Re: Ringgit fluctuation
 

Originally Posted by SushiFan (Post 12394146)
What "dramatic" fluctuations have you noticed recently?
To be honest, I don't pay any special attention to the exchange rates.

Hi SushiFan,

Mid September GBP to MYR hit 5.7014 and today it is 5.4432 and USD was 4.2594 and today it is 4.0651.

InVinoVeritas Dec 5th 2017 9:34 am

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Originally Posted by Macsta (Post 12394148)
Hi SushiFan,

Mid September GBP to MYR hit 5.7014 and today it is 5.4432 and USD was 4.2594 and today it is 4.0651.

I think it is the oil price which is causing RM to fluctuate, Malaysia still being a 20% petro economy.

kingoflostfools Dec 6th 2017 1:48 am

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Originally Posted by InVinoVeritas (Post 12394188)
I think it is the oil price which is causing RM to fluctuate, Malaysia still being a 20% petro economy.

It's also complicated by a potential interest rate hike by Bank Negara and the timing of an election which must take place before 24th August 2018.

Since January it's dropped from 4.5 MYR / USD to 4.06 MYR / USD while over the same period benchmark crude has risen from $53 USD per barrel to $63 USD per barrel.

The US, however is exporting far more light sweet crude into the asian market which is competing directly against the more expensive, but higher quality Tapis light sweet crude.

eCdD Dec 6th 2017 3:41 am

Re: Ringgit fluctuation
 
MYR is recovering now a little bit, nothing special at all. Since 10 years the turnaround point was always around 5,0 to the Euro. Mini currencies like GBP just follow the EUR and USD movement.

Think it will stopp around 4,7 this time, because of the massive government spending in front of the elections. 4,5 and below is only possible with a lot of help from Greece like last time :D

I sold Euros as crazy above 5,0 and now just laze around and spend the Ringgits :)

If you expect Bank Negara to take action before the election (I doubt it) then just do 3m FD.

InVinoVeritas Dec 6th 2017 5:33 am

Re: Ringgit fluctuation
 

Originally Posted by kingoflostfools (Post 12394641)
Since January it's dropped from 4.5 MYR / USD to 4.06 MYR / USD while over the same period benchmark crude has risen from $53 USD per barrel to $63 USD per barrel.

Exactly my point; RM has risen 11% while oil has risen 19%.

SushiFan Dec 6th 2017 7:58 am

Re: Ringgit fluctuation
 
I agree with kingoflostfools that the upcoming election has most likely an impact on the exchange rate.

Davita Dec 6th 2017 3:18 pm

Re: Ringgit fluctuation
 

Originally Posted by InVinoVeritas (Post 12394687)
Exactly my point; RM has risen 11% while oil has risen 19%.

Math isn't my fav subject, beer is, but how is it 1US$ received MYR4.5 in Jan and today only receives MYR4.06 and, as you've apparently confirmed, is an 11 % increase to a recipient in Malaysia?
I would think the opposite.

InVinoVeritas Dec 6th 2017 3:37 pm

Re: Ringgit fluctuation
 

Originally Posted by Davita (Post 12394896)
Math isn't my fav subject, beer is, but how is it 1US$ received MYR4.5 in Jan and today only receives MYR4.06 and, as you've apparently confirmed, is an 11 % increase to a recipient in Malaysia?
I would think the opposite.

I didn't say that. RM has risen 11% which is not good for anyone living in Malaysia and having to convert $ or £ to RM. They will get less. :(

Pulaski Dec 6th 2017 7:56 pm

Re: Ringgit fluctuation
 

Originally Posted by InVinoVeritas (Post 12394906)
I didn't say that. RM has risen 11% which is not good for anyone living in Malaysia and having to convert $ or £ to RM. They will get less. :(

The ringett has increased in value, making dollar goods, or visits to the US, cheaper if you hold ringetts.

Conversely, the rise of the ringett makes Malaysia more expensive for US visitors, or anyone else who holds USD.

InVinoVeritas Dec 7th 2017 4:01 am

Re: Ringgit fluctuation
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12395075)
The ringett has increased in value, making dollar goods, or visits to the US, cheaper if you hold ringetts.

Conversely, the rise of the ringett makes Malaysia more expensive for US visitors, or anyone else who holds USD.

At last, somone who understands me ;)

Davita Dec 7th 2017 6:53 am

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I understood that by financial definitions MYR is stronger when it costs less to buy a US$ or other currency. That is good news for those earning MYR and wishing to convert to another currency.

But an expat living in Malaysia, and this is a British Expat Forum, who remits his foreign currency (pension/investment) and exchange to MYR and gets 11 % less today than in Jan......is not an increase. He is poorer unless his cost of living is lowered by the same amount.

skates81 Dec 7th 2017 8:05 am

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Just three and a bit years ago (2013) when I got MM2H visa, the 1 USD was only equal to RM 2.9, so I wired my USD in Malaysia for the FD for that rate. And soon after I got MM2H, the ringgit depreciated sharply and was recently as low as RM 4.5 to USD, an approximate 50 % decrease in value. I wish I could have applied MM2H when it was 4.5 to USD, I would have saved 50% of my USD capital by doing so. And still, if I cancel my MM2H and reconvert my FD to USD back, I'm going to suffer around 35% of my total USD capital loss.

Macsta Dec 7th 2017 11:12 am

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Thanks all for the responses and information plus those who gave predictions.

2018 election - yikes - "Fasten your seat belts, its going to be a bumpy night!"


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