merlinman

My wife & I, semi-retired business/professional couple currently living in Sydney but originally from UK, will be in Penang from 18 July - 9 August "sussing" the place out with a view to moving permanently in the New Year.

It would be really great to hear from any expats (now hopefully considering themselves locals) to meet up for general advice/lowdown.

Hope to hear from anyone soon

merlinman

Hi again,

All the posts I've read on this seem to be 2-3 years old. Anything more up to date. How about regular contributors - bakedbean?

SushiFan

Maybe not much has changed since the last 2 - 3 years.

merlinman

But the suggested dates are 2-3 years old. Are you saying these meetups just don't happen anymore? Shame

WiredTight

It might be difficult finding a rental/property agent willing to show you around if you don't plan on pulling the trigger until early next year. Stretching the truth a bit might help.
Since you will be in Penang for 3 weeks... Make a real effort getting to know the different neighborhoods around the areas you might be interested in. What is available for shopping, restaurants, food, etc... Also visit the area during different times of the day to test out what Traffic or noise will be like. Look at the "proposed" gov't transportation plan which will also give you an idea for the future.
Seaview vs Garden: Everyone loves the high-floor, and great Sea-view, but... I think you might be missing out on better options (size, location, etc) if you don't also look into a few properties with a Garden-view or a couple blocks off the "Beach".
New vs Older: Significant price difference between the two. Also some older condos/properties seem larger (units/complex). Search online for angry tentant comments.
$$$$: I would automatically take 10% - 20% off the rental price. Asks the owner to fix, paint, replace items you're not 100% happy with. Be prepared to move on if their is no deal (you can always come back).
Just my 2 cents...

merlinman

All good advice (& v. cheap for 2 cents!) & a lot of common sense too.
New v. Older is interesting & quite a dilemma. With the former one obviously gets "new" - all the latest facilities, appliances, décor, etc - but I think there is a serious oversupply problem looming (if it's not already here), which means developer discount on residual stock, all the problems associated with a building/complex being half-empty & minimal/zero capital gain in the medium term.
Conversely the older buildings I've seen (admittedly only on Google Earth), even only 10-15 years old, look jaded & in need of some TLC & this is only on the outside - one wonders what condition the internal/unseen elements (services etc) are in. These buildings need to be pro-actively managed, with owners who are willing/able to contribute extra funds for these works when necessary. Another reason I'm told for the price difference is that locals/Malays prefer to buy new, which is a market/value-limiting factor in itself.
What about a meetup, including with recent (or not so recent) expats. See my post under "Penang regular meetups"

eCdD

Crazy idea as ALL owners in MY are absolutely convinced that fresh white paint has exactly the same price as gold leaf

Good thing on the other hand, when you move out the owner checks the a/c remote controls as they are made of gold either, but completely ignores what you have done to the walls

bakedbean

I am here. What is the question for me ?

merlinman

Hi bakedbean, I see you are an "old hand" at this, read a lot of your posts & thought sure you will have something valuable to contribute re my first post above. Cheers

bakedbean

Your first post says General Advice Lowdown.

Just come here and look around and see if you like it. Only you will know if it's the right place for you. Certainly compared with Sydney you will find it very cheap. But downside is food quality is way way better in Australia. So you take your pick and make your choice.

Any specific questions, just fire away on this topic.

I am not in Penang very much these days so difficult to catch me here.
Others that spend more time here can probably give you better advice than me.

If you don't get to meet people on here (though I am sure you will), there is quite lively scene at Straits Quay these days and quite a few expats congregate around Healy Macs at SQ. Think they still do a quiz night on Mondays. Just go along and get chatting to people. You will soon make some new acquaintances. Quite a few Brits and Aussies and other nationalities of course.

There's also a facebook group MM2H Penang. They meet up for coffees regularly so check that out also.

ex reg

Both these facts are so really true.
But the food quality one is even more truer.

Davita

Must be true...lots and lots of fat people in Sydney.
Penang...not so much....

bakedbean

I would've said the other way around....not that I have seen every single person in Sydney. A lot of Penang food is carb based.... all those noodles !

Some very nice seafood in Australia.... but wandering a bit off topic.

Gunnar45

Davita,
Maybe that's more an indication of Malaysian food quality being superior.
I mean, in general people get fat from too much junk food...

Davita

Gotta confess I haven't been to Sydney in a long time but I see enough Sydneysiders in Bali 'hanging out'...and I mean that literally.....