Love a Discount?
#16
Re: Love a Discount?
Sea Queen at SQ is one of our fav Chinese restaurants. As I'm allergic to oyster sauce, the middle aged lady server is very good and she makes sure the meat is not even marinated with it.
#17
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Location: Tanjung Tokong, Penang
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Re: Love a Discount?
Lots of deals at Straits Quay food & beverage outlets at the moment, as well as the Sea Queen lunchtime deal:
Nonya breeze has 2 lunchtime set menus 1 veggie & 1 non-veggie each for Rm 13.90+. The menus seem to change regularly.
X-clusive is offering 30% of all ala carte food until the end of March
Subway is giving free coffee with any of its breakfast subs
Fruze is giving 20% off between 11 & 3pm
Papa Rich has a lunchtime menu with discount (they add 10% service & then 6% on the 10% though!)
There are the existing Healy Macs lunchtime specials
They are all discounting, perhaps things are a little quiet after the succession of festivals & celebrations.
Nonya breeze has 2 lunchtime set menus 1 veggie & 1 non-veggie each for Rm 13.90+. The menus seem to change regularly.
X-clusive is offering 30% of all ala carte food until the end of March
Subway is giving free coffee with any of its breakfast subs
Fruze is giving 20% off between 11 & 3pm
Papa Rich has a lunchtime menu with discount (they add 10% service & then 6% on the 10% though!)
There are the existing Healy Macs lunchtime specials
They are all discounting, perhaps things are a little quiet after the succession of festivals & celebrations.
#18
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Papa Rich has a lunchtime menu with discount (they add 10% service & then 6% on the 10% though!)
It's cheaper then to apply the 6% GST on the 10% Service charge than apply the 6% on the cost of the meal.
It's cheaper then to apply the 6% GST on the 10% Service charge than apply the 6% on the cost of the meal.
#19
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Joined: Jul 2015
Location: Tanjung Tokong, Penang
Posts: 59
Re: Love a Discount?
Perhaps I am being picky but Papa Rich advertises a price including GST. When the bill came they had added 10% service charge to the price & then GST on the service charge. Sneaky or what.
#20
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I think legally they have to charge GST on the service charge. This is why when GST was first implemented in Malaysia there was a widespread view that the service charge would be abandoned but, unfortunately it is still alive and kicking (perhaps because customers don't like to tip). In the end if you don't think you got value for money you won't go back.
#21
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Found this article but couldn't copy and paste the link, just the part below:
...."If you look at your restaurant bills, you are already paying 6% government tax and 10% service charge. GST will replace the government tax and since both are taxed at 6%, there is no difference. But before you heave that great sigh of relief, you need to know that there will be a difference. This is because of the new way the tax on the service charge will be calculated. (Service charge is collected by restaurants for services rendered. Traditionally, it’s set at 10%.)
A bill of RM100 will be taxed 6% government tax (RM6) and 10% service charge (RM10), bringing the total payable to RM116. That is, the government tax and service charge are calculated on the RM100 subtotal. After GST, the service charge will be added to the subtotal (RM110) before GST tax is calculated. That means you will be taxed on RM110 instead of RM100, bringing the total payable to RM116.60 compared to the-before-GST price of RM116, an additional 60 sen.
This is verified by OldTown White Coffee’s chief operating officer and executive director Clarence Leon D’Silva.
“Our customers will be paying the same before or after the GST is implemented. However, as we have a service charge, the only difference is that 6% GST will be applicable to the service charge.”
He adds that the restaurant has put much thought into providing more affordable meals for its customers in the transition period."....
...."If you look at your restaurant bills, you are already paying 6% government tax and 10% service charge. GST will replace the government tax and since both are taxed at 6%, there is no difference. But before you heave that great sigh of relief, you need to know that there will be a difference. This is because of the new way the tax on the service charge will be calculated. (Service charge is collected by restaurants for services rendered. Traditionally, it’s set at 10%.)
A bill of RM100 will be taxed 6% government tax (RM6) and 10% service charge (RM10), bringing the total payable to RM116. That is, the government tax and service charge are calculated on the RM100 subtotal. After GST, the service charge will be added to the subtotal (RM110) before GST tax is calculated. That means you will be taxed on RM110 instead of RM100, bringing the total payable to RM116.60 compared to the-before-GST price of RM116, an additional 60 sen.
This is verified by OldTown White Coffee’s chief operating officer and executive director Clarence Leon D’Silva.
“Our customers will be paying the same before or after the GST is implemented. However, as we have a service charge, the only difference is that 6% GST will be applicable to the service charge.”
He adds that the restaurant has put much thought into providing more affordable meals for its customers in the transition period."....
#22
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I agree with IVV. GST is payable on the Service Charge.
For how it works see the image below.
Also worth noting is that the 10% Service Charge is actually far more compulsory than it is optional.
Based on the principles of the law of contract, when you step into a restaurant, and upon reading the menu, agree on the terms and conditions of the menu, and proceed to order the food listed in the menu, you have in fact offered to be contractually bound by all the aforesaid terms, regardless of whether your desire to be bound by the terms on service charge was consciously done or not. (Note how some restaurants even display their Service Charge terms on a signboard at the entrance).
When your order is accepted by the restaurant, a contract is then formed between you and the restaurant. This means that you cannot choose to opt out of your contractual obligation to pay the service charge that you have agreed to, unless you are able to prove that the service provided was so bad that it is a breach of the terms. In reality, this is highly impractical as the burden of proof is on you, the consumer.
JC3
For how it works see the image below.
Also worth noting is that the 10% Service Charge is actually far more compulsory than it is optional.
Based on the principles of the law of contract, when you step into a restaurant, and upon reading the menu, agree on the terms and conditions of the menu, and proceed to order the food listed in the menu, you have in fact offered to be contractually bound by all the aforesaid terms, regardless of whether your desire to be bound by the terms on service charge was consciously done or not. (Note how some restaurants even display their Service Charge terms on a signboard at the entrance).
When your order is accepted by the restaurant, a contract is then formed between you and the restaurant. This means that you cannot choose to opt out of your contractual obligation to pay the service charge that you have agreed to, unless you are able to prove that the service provided was so bad that it is a breach of the terms. In reality, this is highly impractical as the burden of proof is on you, the consumer.
JC3
#23
Re: Love a Discount?
Lots of deals at Straits Quay food & beverage outlets at the moment, as well as the Sea Queen lunchtime deal:
Nonya breeze has 2 lunchtime set menus 1 veggie & 1 non-veggie each for Rm 13.90+. The menus seem to change regularly.
X-clusive is offering 30% of all ala carte food until the end of March
Subway is giving free coffee with any of its breakfast subs
Fruze is giving 20% off between 11 & 3pm
Papa Rich has a lunchtime menu with discount (they add 10% service & then 6% on the 10% though!)
There are the existing Healy Macs lunchtime specials
They are all discounting, perhaps things are a little quiet after the succession of festivals & celebrations.
Nonya breeze has 2 lunchtime set menus 1 veggie & 1 non-veggie each for Rm 13.90+. The menus seem to change regularly.
X-clusive is offering 30% of all ala carte food until the end of March
Subway is giving free coffee with any of its breakfast subs
Fruze is giving 20% off between 11 & 3pm
Papa Rich has a lunchtime menu with discount (they add 10% service & then 6% on the 10% though!)
There are the existing Healy Macs lunchtime specials
They are all discounting, perhaps things are a little quiet after the succession of festivals & celebrations.
JC3