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Old Jul 18th 2017, 12:53 am   #1
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Quick questions (I hope) Husband's laptop is playing up. He doesn't have much on it so has decided to restore to factory settings and start again. It was bought before Windows 10. Once the restore has happened will Windows 8 show up and if so is it easy to put Windows 10 on again? Thanks.
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I recently did such a restore on a W10 that was previously upgraded from 8.1.

It came back as W10.

Bit of a surprise considering I'd read lots to say that when upgrading to 10 one had a month to revert back to the original or it would be deleted.

I also read that if one had taken the free upgrade but went back that one could go forward to 10 again.
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I recently did such a restore on a W10 that was previously upgraded from 8.1.

It came back as W10.

Bit of a surprise considering I'd read lots to say that when upgrading to 10 one had a month to revert back to the original or it would be deleted.

I also read that if one had taken the free upgrade but went back that one could go forward to 10 again.
Good to know, thanks Bristol. If it doesn't work, it's going in the pool apparently. I'm trying to prevent that happening.
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Good to know, thanks Bristol. If it doesn't work, it's going in the pool apparently. I'm trying to prevent that happening.
There's another solution, MP. You can download the very latest Windows 10 from Microsoft for free and then buy the activation key from your preferred Amazon site for around US15.

Although you'll have to reinstall your applications, you are at least guaranteed to have a working system at the end as well as a recovery drive for the future.
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There's another solution, MP. You can download the very latest Windows 10 from Microsoft for free and then buy the activation key from your preferred Amazon site for around US15.

Although you'll have to reinstall your applications, you are at least guaranteed to have a working system at the end as well as a recovery drive for the future.
Thanks for that. I'll bear it in mind in future. It's working now so fingers crossed it stays that way.
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Although you'll have to reinstall your applications, you are at least guaranteed to have a working system at the end as well as a recovery drive for the future.
This is my preferred method but can be a PITA as you may have to search for drivers and if your computer is older the manufacturers may not have released Windows 10 drivers so that guarantee of a working computer is only worth the paper it's written on unless you're prepared to put in the time hunting down compatible drivers etc.
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This is my preferred method but can be a PITA as you may have to search for drivers and if your computer is older the manufacturers may not have released Windows 10 drivers so that guarantee of a working computer is only worth the paper it's written on unless you're prepared to put in the time hunting down compatible drivers etc.
The laptop came with W8 so that shouldn't be a problem.
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This is my preferred method but...
Whenever I've seen product keys going for a fraction of the normal price, checking out the reviews or googling reveals a lot of unhappy people with numbers that don't work and MS support staff telling them they're not genuine.
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Whenever I've seen product keys going for a fraction of the normal price, checking out the reviews or googling reveals a lot of unhappy people with numbers that don't work and MS support staff telling them they're not genuine.
Well as someone that used to always successfully use non-genuine keys anyways it's not something that bothered me But in this case as the laptop came with a genuine key that had already been upgraded there would be no need to buy a second license anyways. I have seen plenty of people using cheap Windows 10 keys that are legit so I wouldn't be too concerned, plus Amazon have a great refund policy.
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Well as someone that used to always successfully use non-genuine keys anyways it's not something that bothered me But in this case as the laptop came with a genuine key that had already been upgraded there would be no need to buy a second license anyways. I have seen plenty of people using cheap Windows 10 keys that are legit so I wouldn't be too concerned, plus Amazon have a great refund policy.
Yeah no need for another key. With W10, when you do a clean install and connect the machine to the internet it verifies your machine with microsoft's authentication servers and your machine is activated.
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...plus Amazon have a great refund policy.
You're right there.

I've become a bit more aware of this cheap key thing over the last couple of days with my new laptop and W10, the previous one having Office 2007 and finishing this year.

I don't want all the bells and whistles that come with 365 so I thought maybe the 2010/2013 versions for a one off. But I saw so many supposedly genuine keys and reports of fakes that it's quite put me off.

I'm using Kingsoft for word/spreadsheet and Thunderbird to replace Outlook at the moment.

Now that you reminded me of Amazon's refund policy I may have another look.
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You're right there.

I've become a bit more aware of this cheap key thing over the last couple of days with my new laptop and W10, the previous one having Office 2007 and finishing this year.

I don't want all the bells and whistles that come with 365 so I thought maybe the 2010/2013 versions for a one off. But I saw so many supposedly genuine keys and reports of fakes that it's quite put me off.

I'm using Kingsoft for word/spreadsheet and Thunderbird to replace Outlook at the moment.

Now that you reminded me of Amazon's refund policy I may have another look.
Clearly i've missed a bit...what kind of new laptop did you end up going with?

Just had a look on amazon and there are a few 'bootleg' sellers with mixed reviews....you could always give it a go and get a refund if it doesn't work out.
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Clearly i've missed a bit...what kind of new laptop did you end up going with?

Just had a look on amazon and there are a few 'bootleg' sellers with mixed reviews....you could always give it a go and get a refund if it doesn't work out.
I bought this one about a year ago:-

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Works great!

Oddly enough the pre-installed W10 stopped working - so that was probably a pirate version.
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Nuthin' fancy
Acer Aspire E 15.6" Touchscreen Laptop - Black/Iron (Intel Core i5-7200U/1TB HDD/8GB RAM/Windows 10)
But $550 and not the $750 they're asking now.

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Just had a look on amazon and there are a few 'bootleg' sellers with mixed reviews....you could always give it a go and get a refund if it doesn't work out.
Yes, it's a bit off-putting.

Aside from the number of people saying theirs didn't work or it did but then it stopped working it's very noticeable that many of the positive reviews all focus on the same things/use the same words etc and that's a bit of a red flag that I discovered from ebay complaints.

And then there are those that clearly refer to having received a disc while others talk of the number only. It's as if someone got their mates to do some nice reviews for them without realising there is no disc, just the download from MS

My last two orders from Amazon resulted in refunds. If I do it again I might get a reputation
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But $550 and not the $750 they're asking now.


Yes, it's a bit off-putting.

Aside from the number of people saying theirs didn't work or it did but then it stopped working it's very noticeable that many of the positive reviews all focus on the same things/use the same words etc and that's a bit of a red flag that I discovered from ebay complaints.

And then there are those that clearly refer to having received a disc while others talk of the number only. It's as if someone got their mates to do some nice reviews for them without realising there is no disc, just the download from MS

My last two orders from Amazon resulted in refunds. If I do it again I might get a reputation
The issue with reviews is people tend to be more inclined to leave a negative review rather than a positive one, I've got about 10 pages of things waiting for reviews on Amazon and get sick of the e-mails I get sent telling me to review every day things I bought.
Another issue is you can never underestimate the reviewer's intelligence, I've recently had people complain that on the app I work on that when you click the delete button it deletes the item you had selected, another user complained that when she paid for a 1 month subscription she only got 1 month subscription and she was expecting multiple months.
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