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Old Jun 19th 2017, 11:25 pm   #1
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Default AMD A10 versus i5

I've been looking at various comparison sites and I can't seem to come up with any conclusions for CPU A10-8700P against i5-7200U.

Sometimes it's close, sometimes seemingly contradictory. Other times there might be something about one being better than the other but the uses don't mean anything to me. eg multiple threads or why wouldn't 4 cores be better than 2?

In simple terms where is one better than the other? If you don't play games, don't photo edit, write programs but do stream/download/watch movies, surf a lot (have at least half a dozen tabs open) and use a few office type things is there much of a difference?

Personally I don't like the red sticker that comes with laptops with an AMD but I don't think that's a great reason.

I went back over a few posts in this bit of the forum but didn't really find much useful...although there were one or two posts that didn't seem wholly neutral.
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Default Re: AMD A10 versus i5

My two cents worth. I think generally AMD is supposed to be a little faster than the equivalent Intel. My old PC had an AMD processor - no idea which one now! - this one has an i5 -3300, previous generation. Now, things like you say you DON'T do need a lot of memory to run efficiently . I do a fair bit of video and photo editing and my 8GB of memory works just fine.(My graphics card is a 2GB and uses an AMD processor and works just fine for what I want - I don't do games either!) So does streaming etc , but this is more dependent on your internet connection than the actual processor in your system. One of the advantages of multi core, multi threading is that it allows you to have multiple programs running smoothly at the same time - many tabs for example. This PC is definitely much smoother than my previous one but I don't think this is primarily due to it being an i5 , more to do with the amount of memory. In real life there is not much difference , so I suggest you go for the cheapest! If there is only a few dollars difference then personally I'd pick the i5 as there have been(apocryphal?) reports of some peripheral drivers not working too well with AMD.
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Default Re: AMD A10 versus i5

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My two cents worth.
This post is already more useful than the stuff I read yesterday
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I think generally AMD is supposed to be a little faster than the equivalent Intel.
How does one know what is considered the equivalent? Some of the stuff I was reading seemed to suggest you had to get to A8 to be close to i3.

CPU benchmark scores the A10-8700P @ 3463 and the i5-7200U @ 4702 which seems a fairly significant difference.

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...I do a fair bit of video and photo editing and my 8GB of memory works just fine.(My graphics card is a 2GB and uses an AMD processor and works just fine for what I want
Thanks for throwing that in. I never pay much attention to graphics but that's useful to know.

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So does streaming etc , but this is more dependent on your internet connection
Ours is good. 100/50, no limits.

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One of the advantages of multi core, multi threading is that it allows you to have multiple programs running smoothly at the same time - many tabs for example.
All this time I've read about multiple programs running and I always considered that wasn't "me"
Sure I keep Outlook (from Office) open and I keep a word doc open while I'm on line, neither of which sound significant, but right now I have 6 tabs open.

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In real life there is not much difference...there have been(apocryphal?) reports of some peripheral drivers not working too well with AMD.
And suggestions they have a lower life expectancy too - but maybe that's with heavier use?

The CPU on my Gateway is Intel Celeron B820 (1437 on benchmark)

My mother in law's HP scored around 900 (can't recall what it was right now) but I just bought her an Acer with AMD A6-7310 which scores 2654 (and the same 6gb RAM).

It's a definite improvement as you'd expect with a CPU scoring three times what she had. But the main website that she spends time on - Journal de Montreal - which is fairly picture intensive on the home page - loads quicker on mine.

This is either due to my laptop having 8gb RAM against her 6 (which doesn't seem that likely) or the games she has (Bejeweled, Bookworm, a pyramid cards thing etc). But she looks at the journal before opening any game.

As far as I'm concerned my laptop is still significantly outperforming her new one (I think when I only had 4gb it would have too) and while she has a few games installed, I have plenty installed that she doesn't.

It can't just be that she has games installed can it?

Normal retail for mine is around $350 (4gb), hers @ $500/550 4gb/6.
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