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Old Mar 14th 2017, 5:54 pm   #16
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If you are willing to risk it..then it's your own choice.

25 years in IT have taught me otherwise..
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FWIW developers are the last people you want to be taking security advice from, the fewer external applications that we have to take in to consideration when we develop and test the better, if the rest of your computer goes to shit that's your problem so long as our application is working as intended we don't care.
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you can check your ip settings by typing "ipconfig /all" at the cmd prompt . if you are able to do this on a working and non working machine and compare.

If you are still having problems , you can always go the "scannow /sfc" approach
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You can also use the optimize feature in the Lenovo Companion App.
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if you are going to run an AV, throw on a copy of ESET.
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Thanks for this. I'll give these ideas a go.
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The Lenovo companion will check out your hardware and optimise your files, but it won't solve this kind of problem unfortunately.

Scanning with a commercial antivirus programme and a couple of malware programmes, followed by a manual check of network settings (especially VPN/Proxy settings) should provide a solution.

Web pages 'not showing up' are 99% down to some kind of settings being incorrect on your machine or bad DNS setup somewhere along the line.

In extreme cases it can even be your internet provider with poorly maintained DNS systems.
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Windows Defender is not an Antivirus programme. Please install a commercial programme such as Kaspersky or ESET antivirus for your own safety!
Windows Defender is the best antivirus program available (Microsoft Security Essentials), period.

All 3rd party AV program install hooks in to the OS to enable them to 'keep you safe'. It has been proven time and time again that these hooks are often flawed and in fact open up your PC to malicious actors. Modern 3rd party AV programs provide more harm than protection as they often make your PC more vulnerable.

Many 3rd party AV programs now install a fake SSL certificate to examine your encrypted connections. Effectively becoming a man-in-the-middle. Which may be what the OP is seeing.

Just like we all had to rely on 3rd party Firewalls before Microsoft stepped up its game and provided (and then enabled by default) their own, we will see the AV portion of the OS move that way too.

https://www.wired.com/2016/06/symant...security-gaps/
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Windows Defender is the best antivirus program available (Microsoft Security Essentials), period.
Until it stops my boss from opening attachments sent from "Fedex" and forwarding them on to me it's not the best. There's no point having the best locks money can buy on you house if you leave the front door wide open.
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You guys are stars, it was the VPN. Thanks so much for all the help.
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Have you found a way to switch it 'ON' when you need it and "OFF" when you don't?

Then you have it cracked.
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Have you found a way to switch it 'ON' when you need it and "OFF" when you don't?

Then you have it cracked.
Yes thanks it's straight forward. It's even easier when you remember what the bloody thing was called and where it was.
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Until it stops my boss from opening attachments sent from "Fedex" and forwarding them on to me it's not the best. There's no point having the best locks money can buy on you house if you leave the front door wide open.
You aught to be deploying protection at the mail server, firewall and/or proxy. In a well managed network that email would never have got to your boss.

Here is yet another example of 3rd party antivirus software vulnerabilities. Read this section carefully
The flaws allow hackers to completely compromise people's machines simply by sending them malicious self-replicating code through unopened emails or un-clicked links.
Google Found Symantec and Norton Vulnerabilities 'As Bad As It Gets' | Fortune.com
The AV during its scan, if vulnerable, can compromise your network.

Your boss would have been compromised before he even forwarded the message to you, leaving you to close the stable door long after the horses had bolted.




Whilst it may not be worth uninstalling already purchased antivirus software, it is likely that if you are keeping apps and the operating system up-to-date with the latest versions as soon as they are released, adding antivirus software may not bring any additional benefit and may increase the risks.
http://theconversation.com/as-more-v...software-61374

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You aught to be deploying protection at the mail server, firewall and/or proxy. In a well managed network that email would never have got to your boss.
That's all well and good for a big company but when I'm the only IT person (and I'm a programmer) it's easier for me to keep the servers on one network and have everyone else on completely separate internet connection, especially as the boss works from home most of the time. If I took responsibility for everyone's computers at work I'd never get any development done.
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Yet again another example today of why not to use 3rd party AV
Windows 10: DoubleAgent zero-day hijacks Microsoft tool to turn antivirus into malware | ZDNet

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The DoubleAgent attack is detailed by Israel-based security firm Cybellum, which claims to have confirmed it can compromise products by Avast, AVG, Avira, Bitdefender, Trend Micro, Comodo, ESET, F-Secure, Kaspersky, Malwarebytes, McAfee, Panda, Quick Heal, and Norton. The company says other antivirus products are also likely to be vulnerable.
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The issue doesn't lie with Microsoft, but rather with antivirus vendors and could be used to attack organizations that use affected antivirus products.
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