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Old Nov 10th 2017, 1:48 pm   #1
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Hello all, I have a question for you, I do occasional work ( teaching in schools) but I can't go beyond 5k euro per year or I will need to be con partita IVA, anybody know anything about this as I am a bit confused ??
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Old Nov 11th 2017, 7:12 am   #2
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Opt for ritenuta d'acconto and then no IVA.
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Old Nov 11th 2017, 7:26 am   #3
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Yes Modicasa I do this, but on the form I fill in it asks me if I earn over 5k then I must notify the school. Thanks for your reply.
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About this issue, I would also like to know if someone can offer a clarification.

Doing teaching in schools with ritenuta d'acconto to the €5,000 limit is pretty clear. It constitutes "occasional work" so the authorities don't expect you to go to the expense of a VAT (Partita IVA) number. But all these jobs will include some paperwork at the end of the day, so that you can include them in your tax return.

So, my doubt is about doing private lessons. I think there is a general feeling that you can do up to €5,000 worth of lessons without too much worry about paperwork. But I understand this is not the case. When a private student pays, you should give them a receipt, from a little book of blank receipts from the stationers, to acknowledge the payment. Those receipts should then all be declared when you do your end of year tax form. Most people I've spoken to say that the first €5,000 is just written-off and is effectively tax free, non declarable income.

I'm just confused.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Am I being too British in wanting to know?
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Old Nov 12th 2017, 1:17 pm   #5
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About this issue, I would also like to know if someone can offer a clarification.

Doing teaching in schools with ritenuta d'acconto to the €5,000 limit is pretty clear. It constitutes "occasional work" so the authorities don't expect you to go to the expense of a VAT (Partita IVA) number. But all these jobs will include some paperwork at the end of the day, so that you can include them in your tax return.

So, my doubt is about doing private lessons. I think there is a general feeling that you can do up to €5,000 worth of lessons without too much worry about paperwork. But I understand this is not the case. When a private student pays, you should give them a receipt, from a little book of blank receipts from the stationers, to acknowledge the payment. Those receipts should then all be declared when you do your end of year tax form. Most people I've spoken to say that the first €5,000 is just written-off and is effectively tax free, non declarable income.

I'm just confused.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Am I being too British in wanting to know?
Nobody in Italy expects receipts for lessons done at your kitchen table. No Italian mother expects a receipt for what you charge and they pay. They just want their kid to get through the school year. All those Italian Uni students offering and giving private tuition don't ever offer receipts and are not even worried about free advertising and leaving their phone numbers all over the place.

Private schools or businesses that want documented pay evidence can be given a ritenuta d'acconto and that total must not exceed €5.000 per year
and you don't pay tax on it - the business does. You don't even have to file a tax return if you are under the €5.000 and have nothing else that needs declaring or claiming.
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Nobody in Italy expects receipts for lessons done at your kitchen table. No Italian mother expects a receipt for what you charge and they pay. They just want their kid to get through the school year. All those Italian Uni students offering and giving private tuition don't ever offer receipts and are not even worried about free advertising and leaving their phone numbers all over the place.

Private schools or businesses that want documented pay evidence can be given a ritenuta d'acconto and that total must not exceed €5.000 per year
and you don't pay tax on it - the business does. You don't even have to file a tax return if you are under the €5.000 and have nothing else that needs declaring or claiming.
Lorna I agree with the first part, but the school takes 27% in tax on the gross amount. As I have to file a tax return I claim it back. I usually receive it after a year. I wanted to know if I earn more than the 5k ( declared) in next years fiscale year what happens?
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The 27% sounds more like it might be INPS - national insurance contributions which are not the same as income tax.
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The 27% sounds more like it might be INPS - national insurance contributions which are not the same as income tax.
Whatever it is I claim it back.
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Whatever it is I claim it back.
Does the school give you a CUD then? Or whatever it is called these days.
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Does the school give you a CUD then? Or whatever it is called these days.
yes.
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yes.
Ah well. That makes a difference.
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Ah well. That makes a difference.
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