Marocco

Sorry, I meant they were obsolete in hand-written Italian.

pugliese

I've got pta on Monday so son confessed today that he had been given a bad mark in meteorology .... a 3!

Three, I say, how did you manage that?
Teacher caught me copying, he admits, but David and Francesco also got three.
It's no consolation to me that the other boys also got bad marks, who did you copy from then?
Well there were 3 questions and I didn't know the answer to the last one so I looked on my cell phone.
But your phone hasn't got internet!
No, I know, he says, I photographed the pages of my book with my phone and the teacher caught me when I was looking and gave me a 3.
Damned bloody right she did as well, I would have given you "O". You little bugger, you had every intention to cheat, why don't you just study like other kids do?
I did revise but we knew it was going to be a hard test, so I thought I would take precautions.

Anyone got any advice what I am supposed to do with him? I mean, he's 18 years old, isn't it about time he started acting more like an adult? Any help highly appreciated.

HADENOUGHPIZZA

Well he tried to cheat , got caught and got a 3 ! I'd simpley point out that he has failed the test and its up to him to ask the teacher for a resit or make sure the next test mark he gets is high enough to bring his average back up. If it is a ' one off' as far as you you know and otherwise his grades are fine I wouldn't make too much of it , he can work it out for himself !

Lorna at Vicenza

I think it was quite clever to photograph the page. (don't tell him I said that though). I would never have though of that but of course we never had mobile phones.
We also had it drummed into us for years that if we got caught cheating in just one O level or A level then we would be disqualified and fail ALL of them. It wasn't worth the risk to cheat and I don't know anybody who did.
We also had to leave all our bags at the front of the exam room as well, and pencil cases and just have the bare pen and pencil on our desk.
He was lucky.

He tried to cheat and got caught. Like HEP said, tell him he better make sure his next mark is good enough to bring him up to level.

And tell him from me never to get into a poker game for high stakes - coz he'll lose it all !!!!!

pugliese

Well, it was Dad's turn to have a go at him at lunchtime. So with half a smile on his face dad says to son:

What have you been doing at school?
Oh mum's told you ...... era una cazzata, I won't do it again!

Let's hope so, now I have got to go and face the music on Monday!

MarkRD

That's quite a funny story in a way, but I can imagine it's very annoying as a parent!
I think they generally give '3' as a minimum for just turning up and writing *something* down on paper.

Mind you, as I always say, when schools -and teachers - start treating them as 18 year olds, ie. young adults, then perhaps they might start to 'grow up' a bit more. As I've said before they use the same methods as when they are 13 or 14. Not good.

What school is 'meteorology' part of ? just curious!

pugliese

Yes, I think that's what his dad thought because he said to me "Well, you have got to hand it to him, he shows initiative". Meteorology is part of the curriculum at the Instituto Aeronautico.

MarkRD

Ha! Typical dads!

Marocco

In Italy, cheating is part of the system. Almost everyone who went to school there either cheated or helped others cheat. Even the Italian word for "cheat" (copiare) has no negative connotations.

duffer

At university we used cheat sheets: little pieces of paper with all key points, formulae, etc in tiny handwriting that we would have up our sleeve. Once sat down, we'd just take out and unfold the cheat sheet and place it underneath scrap paper used for workings.

It didn't do me any harm, I would be no less dumber if I had actually studied!

HADENOUGHPIZZA

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-students.html

Things are so good in the USA / Uk .. loved the giraffes

pugliese

some are really amusing, thanks for sharing.

MarkRD

Find x !

Lorna at Vicenza

Quite literal thinking !

I think our test papers used to say "what is the value of 'X' ?" so that answer wouldn't have worked for us.

pugliese

and the complementary angle!