britaly00

Thanks.

For the translation I take it has to be done by a registered (with any specific org.?) professional translator, but does his/her citizenship matter? I have a (British) translator friend based in Italy but does not have Italian citizenship.

modicasa

Translation doesnt have to be done a by an Italian citizen, but they need to be resident in Italy. They then go to the Justice of the Peace and swear the translation.

BritInParis

EEA/EU only. You would need a passport to go further afield.

philat98

Thanks for that. An ID card is a lot easier and cheaper to get than a passport. I wonder if the UK will remain within the EEA? Hammond sounds like he is in favour of keeping trade agreements.

BritInParis

I think it unlikely as things stand but two years is a long time in politics, particularly at the moment.

modicasa

I wouldnt try to second guess anything this mad bunch of baboons are doing or planning to do.

britaly00

thanks.

britaly00

Going through my documents I have found 2 forms of birth certificate:
One is an original, quite small, red border, about 6" square( maybe this is what is referred to on the GRO site as a 'short birth certificate'?); the other is a copy of a larger, A4-sized, certificate, with more details on it -father and mother's names.
Am I to assume the latter is necessary, from the GRO, then to be forwarded to the legalisation office?

Geordieborn

Even in the UK the "short" (6", yes) is not accepted by many organisations there, I would always go with the "full" certificate.

britaly00

great, cheers, geordie.
And they then forward to the legalisation office, I understand?

britaly00

Could I ask you to elaborate: the legalisation office says that they must receive it by post with a "completed Legalisation Office Application Form and a suitable envelope for return of you documents".
How was the form completed if it was sent from the GRO directly, and the postage supplied for the return from the legalisation office?
Also when one gets to the delivery address page for the certificate on the GRO site it seems one would have to enter the Legalisation Office address maybe, as there is no option to automatically direct it there.
Thanks.

philat98

I created an account on the FO website. After you have entered the list of documents required it gives you the option to print out a customized letter. I can't see why they need an envelope when they are charging 15pounds for postage. I asked for ACRO to send direct to the FO and they said it was not possible.

BritInParis

Your 'short' birth certificate is practically useless - the 'full' birth certificate is the only one to present to any official body.

modicasa

I did it all online, form and payment. The birth certificate was sent direct from the issuing office to Milton Keynes - and it arrived in Italy by courier. Perhaps I was just lucky.

britaly00

cheers. fair point re. postage.
And when you say F(oreign)O(ffice) site, this would be the GRO, under the HM Passport Office?

Thanks. Hope this works for me too.

So, could I recap, open to correction:
ACRO report can't be sent directly to legalisation office- would have to go there via intermediary address. (maybe a UK contact address or back to Italy before being sent back to legalisation office
GRO birth certificate can be directed to legalisation office, then on to Italy.

Also, I read somewhere the docs need to be translated and sworn within a certain period (maybe 6 mths?); is this correct?

thanks.