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Old Feb 23rd 2017, 11:18 am   #1
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I have been trying to get an appointment for cittadinazza at the London Office,
for months. I just cannot see any appointments released when I go in to the portal and I have tried looking for ages.

It is for citizenship by birth, due to me being born in UK but having an Italian citizen parent.

The phone number for the Office is just a recorded message, I tried calling during allotted time in the afternnon for that dept. and it is engaged line.

How can I proceed, if I cannot get an appointment. I have my birth certificate, and a copy of my parents Italian ID card.

Can I do this procedure in Italy instead or does it have to be in UK?
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Hello and welcome to the forum.

I'm not exactly sure what it is that you are trying to get since you are already an Italian citizen.
Are you wanting to get a certificate to prove your Italian citizenship?
Do you know if your parents registered your birth with the Italian Embassy when you were born?
I don't think an Italian ID card is enough. I think you will need your parent's birth certificate ............... and lots of money. If I'm not mistaken it costs about £300

Is this the website you have been using?



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Old Feb 24th 2017, 12:23 pm   #3
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Hi,

No I am a UK citizen, born in UK.
My mother is Italian citizen, born in Italy, she lives there now, but did live in London previously and was registered with the Londra office.

She did not register my birth with the London Italian consulate/emabassy - which means I am not automatically a citizen of Italy too, as far as I know.

I want Italian citizenship for myself, dual citizenship. via the birthright rule.

I cannot get an appointment in London, was wondering if anyone had same experience or had a way round this?

I am using the official website and there is a login and appointment calendar....but they just do not release dates to book and it has been months of checking.

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If you were born after 1948 you are automatically an Italian citizen. Before 1948 mothers couldn't pass Italian citizenship onto their children, only fathers. Italians pass on citizenship through blood and not by place of birth. You can have both citizenships. You already have both if you were born after 1948.
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If you can read Italian this is what it says on the website about booking appoinments online:


Si consiglia di provare a prenotare un appuntamento ogni lunedì e mercoledì notte dalle ore 19 (UK time), ora in cui il sistema automatico sblocca la prima data disponibile. Stante l’elevata domanda, i posti disponibili vanno esaurendosi nel giro di pochi minuti.
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If you can read Italian this is what it says on the website about booking appoinments online:


Si consiglia di provare a prenotare un appuntamento ogni lunedì e mercoledì notte dalle ore 19 (UK time), ora in cui il sistema automatico sblocca la prima data disponibile. Stante l’elevata domanda, i posti disponibili vanno esaurendosi nel giro di pochi minuti.
Yes, I do read Italian. But just try to book, it simply does not release anything visible for me to book!! I will keep trying, as I gave up and decided to find another way around it.

In response to Lorna - Yes after 1948, although, I am not sure that I am automatically a citizen as we speak, as my birth was not registered at the consulate, so I have no paperwork. I realise I have the right to citizenship though - it is just a question of getting an appointment, giving them the docs they want and getting a bit of paper (I assume).

I need the bit of paper, so I can apply for an Italian passport. I do not think I can just get a passport without going through citizenship dept. first (or so I read somewhere).

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Yes, I do read Italian. But just try to book, it simply does not release anything visible for me to book!! I will keep trying, as I gave up and decided to find another way around it.

In response to Lorna - Yes after 1948, although, I am not sure that I am automatically a citizen as we speak, as my birth was not registered at the consulate, so I have no paperwork. I realise I have the right to citizenship though - it is just a question of getting an appointment, giving them the docs they want and getting a bit of paper (I assume).

I need the bit of paper, so I can apply for an Italian passport. I do not think I can just get a passport without going through citizenship dept. first (or so I read somewhere).
You are - as we speak - automatically Italian through blood lines. You just don't have any actual proof of it. A birth doesn't have to be registered by law but it might help further down the line for descendants...... like you now. I never ever registered my children on the UK registers at birth. Mostly because it cost a lot of money and also because I knew they had those rights anyway. I just applied directly for them to get a UK passport as being British by descent and they got one. I applied as the mummy before they got to age 18.

Both of them have an Italian identity card that says : Cittadinanza Italiana and both of them have a UK passport that says: British Citizen.


I don't know why you can't get an appointment through the proper channels .... it did say that it's always very busy and to try at 7pm UK time. I'm not sure what else to suggest.
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From what Lorna has said it would indeed seem like you just need to apply for an Italian passport.
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From what Lorna has said it would indeed seem like you just need to apply for an Italian passport.
I doubt that. Not with the Italian love of paper work. Pretty sure that he will need to be registered at the AIRE first and to do that he will need proof that he is an Italian citizen.
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No, one has to apply for citizenship first. But still unable to get an appointment at London office, using online system. I am about to give up, which is a shame.
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So basically there is a new system where people need to confirm the appointment at the latest 3 days before the date they have got. If they don't confirm, the appointment is cancelled and their time slot becomes available again. I would adivice you to check frequently the website appointments calendar on Fridays and Mondays (3 days before Tuesdays and Thursdays), this way you could get, on a very short notice, somebody else's appointment.
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