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Old Sep 17th 2017, 3:23 am   #1
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Saw the trailer for this and hope to see it on 23 Sept at Glasgow Film Theatre (GFT)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5816682/

wonder how Indian audiences would react to it.

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Saw the trailer for this and hope to see it on 23 Sept at Glasgow Film Theatre (GFT)

Victoria and Abdul (2017) - IMDb

wonder how Indian audiences would react to it.
It's just a film!

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and......?
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Old Sep 19th 2017, 9:03 pm   #4
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"Just a film" ???????

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This particular film is just entertainment----I imagine the reactions of the few Indian people who see it will be the same as anywhere else.

(Although I find that Indian people are always surprised when they find out how small Victoria was, they imagined a tall fierce women!)
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One can be small and fierce
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Or big and soft - like Yours Truly !
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I enjoyed the film. It certainly portrayed the court circles and entourage round QV as a bunch of racists. i suppose that was the norm in 19th century Britain - only 30 years after the so-called "Mutiny"

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Karim_(the_Munshi)

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Which led me to this -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_..._Indian_Empire


And that "has gone the way of Nineveh and Tyre". Although it still forms the mindset of English Tory politicians !
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Oh - and if you are a sworn and serving member of any form of armed forces - regular or mercenary - and you attack and kill your officers and their families, for whatever reason, then that is mutiny - do you have a different name for it?
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P.S I thought the film showed slightly more contemporary understanding than the entertaining but historically silly "Victoria" on TV.
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The term "Indian Mutiny" to describe the events of 1857 is no longer used in India.

Remember that History is written by the Victors. The Victors in India have not turned out to be the British !

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The term "Indian Mutiny" to describe the events of 1857 is no longer used in India.

Remember that History is written by the Victors. The Victors in India have not turned out to be the British !
... and neither the Moghuls nor the British ruled any part of the Indian sub-continent, the Taj Mahal is a Blot on the landscape and Shah Jahan imprisoned his father/son/uncle Tom Cobley - - - feh!

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I enjoyed the film.
From that I may well watch it then.
I like a bit of true grit sans mush.
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Of the films I have seen recently this was one of the more enjoyable. But I still cannot take the portrayal of Victoria as a Polly-Toynbee Guardianista too seriously !
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