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Old Oct 2nd 2017, 1:11 am   #46
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Can someone tell me what IELTS is and do native speaker need to take it. If I have 'superior English' then I have a 60 score in the Immigration points test
IELTS is the International English Language Testing System - a test of abilities in the English language across 4 areas of reading, listening, speaking and writing.

As a citizen of some countries, eg UK, you do not have to take the IELTS test to prove competent English, but if you want to claim a higher level then you would need to take either IELTS or one of the other recognised tests (OET, PTE, TOEFL iBT or CAE). IELTS was the only test for a long time accepted by DIBP, so is often mentioned but the others are now accepted. Some people find other tests easier than IELTS but many still just sit IELTS. To claim 'Superior English' you would need to score 8.0 or better in each of the 4 IELTS tests or the equivalent in the other tests.

Info here for Superior English - Skilled Independent visa (subclass 189) (Points-tested) stream
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So when it asks me on my English ability, I can answer 'Superior English' and get max points
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Old Oct 2nd 2017, 1:14 pm   #48
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So when it asks me on my English ability, I can answer 'Superior English' and get max points
Only if you have the required score in one of the tests.

A UK passport / Citizenship (as well as some others) proves competent English - 0 points - only.

My guess is that you may struggle with IELTS if you came to your conclusion from the post I made.
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ouch that hurt.

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ouch that hurt.
The same thought had occurred to me. No point in telling you otherwise if you are going to try and get a superior score.
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The same thought had occurred to me. No point in telling you otherwise if you are going to try and get a superior score.
No point telling me what?
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No point telling me what?
There is no point letting you think that your English is Superior when it is not of the level that IELTS would consider Superior.

I freely admit that I could never pass at a Superior level and am just glad my visa was not dependent on it.
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There is no point letting you think that your English is Superior when it is not of the level that IELTS would consider Superior.

I freely admit that I could never pass at a Superior level and am just glad my visa was not dependent on it.
Is it a hard test? I just thought it was just to test how well you are at the English language, and it being my first language, I think I can read, speak etc well
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Is it a hard test? I just thought it was just to test how well you are at the English language, and it being my first language, I think I can read, speak etc well
There are practice tests available online. You can also find examples of written pieces to the level you need as a guide.

EDIT - you have the advantage that you do not need to pass the test to prove you are competent. If you are adept at deciphering written text, writing formal and informal reports and similar, can listen to what people say and understand the context, and speak clearly, fluently and accurately then you may achieve a higher score. It may be hard to hear that this may not be the case, but it is better to know where you stand than set you up for unexpected failure. Practice is the key, and IELTS is not for everyone but there are alternatives.

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If you Google the British Council IELTS website you can access their free IELTS practice test there. That should give you some idea of what you are up against.

Youtube also has some good advice if you dig around.

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Is it a hard test? I just thought it was just to test how well you are at the English language, and it being my first language, I think I can read, speak etc well
It may well be for you but there have been plenty of English people who only speak English who haven't done as well in their IELTS tests as they thought. Do not assume anything but good luck with it.
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Hello ,
I am 20 and I have city&guilds level 1 and 2 I Ihave been working as plumber gas engineer for almost 2 year While i was going college , now I am planning to do gas course but I want to move in australia soon And I dont think my uk gas course will be accepted there , so I ended up here to get some advices . Thank you
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Skilled visa won't be an option as you don't have enough work experience. You might be better with some kind of student visa option allowing you to train in Australia.

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Do you need work experience (and if so how much) for a 187 visa?
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