Work visa with criminal record
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Work visa with criminal record
Hi guys,
My story goes a little like this. I moved to New Zealand two years ago, I spent 7 months amazing months there before tragedy struck. My dad had a major health scare and it was something that triggered my desire to move home. I was at a bar drinking when I got the call and like an absolute idiot got behind the wheel and drove home. I jumped two red lights on the way home and was pulled over by the cops outside my house. I was charged with EBA and also dangerous driving. That's two criminal convictions. I had zero criminal convictions in my home country. At the time, it didn't even matter to me. I was only focused on my dad and once he was better I started researching the impact of my convictions and realised just how majorly I had ****ed up. I was scheduled to fly home soon after my hearing so declined the opportunity by the duty lawyer at the time to at least fight the dangerous driving charge, she was moved by my story and understood that the circumstances dictated my actions to a certain degree. However, I wanted things done quickly and so just wanted to plead guilty in order to go home. I left NZ soon after and paid my fines on the day.
I have since been working back home and have had no further run-ins with the law. My job is on the skilled occupations list, I have a professional qualifications with CPA Australia and graduated from an Australian University. Things have settled down back home and I'd love nothing more than to give Australia a shot. Some of my closest friends work in the country and I visited it every other month when I was in NZ. Is there any chance at all that I'd get a work visa let alone an eventual PR? Is it worth my effort investing my time into this or should I just let it be? I have visited Australia since and each time declared my convictions instead of hiding it if that matters at all from a character perspective.
When this all initially happened I considered suicide because I am weak and couldn't bear to think of the opportunity I'd thrown away. I really don't want to give my self any false hope as I worry failure could send me down that path again. It was a horrible time for me and I don't ever want to feel that way again.
My story goes a little like this. I moved to New Zealand two years ago, I spent 7 months amazing months there before tragedy struck. My dad had a major health scare and it was something that triggered my desire to move home. I was at a bar drinking when I got the call and like an absolute idiot got behind the wheel and drove home. I jumped two red lights on the way home and was pulled over by the cops outside my house. I was charged with EBA and also dangerous driving. That's two criminal convictions. I had zero criminal convictions in my home country. At the time, it didn't even matter to me. I was only focused on my dad and once he was better I started researching the impact of my convictions and realised just how majorly I had ****ed up. I was scheduled to fly home soon after my hearing so declined the opportunity by the duty lawyer at the time to at least fight the dangerous driving charge, she was moved by my story and understood that the circumstances dictated my actions to a certain degree. However, I wanted things done quickly and so just wanted to plead guilty in order to go home. I left NZ soon after and paid my fines on the day.
I have since been working back home and have had no further run-ins with the law. My job is on the skilled occupations list, I have a professional qualifications with CPA Australia and graduated from an Australian University. Things have settled down back home and I'd love nothing more than to give Australia a shot. Some of my closest friends work in the country and I visited it every other month when I was in NZ. Is there any chance at all that I'd get a work visa let alone an eventual PR? Is it worth my effort investing my time into this or should I just let it be? I have visited Australia since and each time declared my convictions instead of hiding it if that matters at all from a character perspective.
When this all initially happened I considered suicide because I am weak and couldn't bear to think of the opportunity I'd thrown away. I really don't want to give my self any false hope as I worry failure could send me down that path again. It was a horrible time for me and I don't ever want to feel that way again.
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Re: Work visa with criminal record
If you were only fined, you should be ok.
Be sure to declae the matter.
Had you not declared your conviction when incoming, that would have been enough to create a serious issue.
Be sure to declae the matter.
Had you not declared your conviction when incoming, that would have been enough to create a serious issue.
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Re: Work visa with criminal record
Hi guys,
My story goes a little like this. I moved to New Zealand two years ago, I spent 7 months amazing months there before tragedy struck. My dad had a major health scare and it was something that triggered my desire to move home. I was at a bar drinking when I got the call and like an absolute idiot got behind the wheel and drove home. I jumped two red lights on the way home and was pulled over by the cops outside my house. I was charged with EBA and also dangerous driving. That's two criminal convictions. I had zero criminal convictions in my home country. At the time, it didn't even matter to me. I was only focused on my dad and once he was better I started researching the impact of my convictions and realised just how majorly I had ****ed up. I was scheduled to fly home soon after my hearing so declined the opportunity by the duty lawyer at the time to at least fight the dangerous driving charge, she was moved by my story and understood that the circumstances dictated my actions to a certain degree. However, I wanted things done quickly and so just wanted to plead guilty in order to go home. I left NZ soon after and paid my fines on the day.
I have since been working back home and have had no further run-ins with the law. My job is on the skilled occupations list, I have a professional qualifications with CPA Australia and graduated from an Australian University. Things have settled down back home and I'd love nothing more than to give Australia a shot. Some of my closest friends work in the country and I visited it every other month when I was in NZ. Is there any chance at all that I'd get a work visa let alone an eventual PR? Is it worth my effort investing my time into this or should I just let it be? I have visited Australia since and each time declared my convictions instead of hiding it if that matters at all from a character perspective.
When this all initially happened I considered suicide because I am weak and couldn't bear to think of the opportunity I'd thrown away. I really don't want to give my self any false hope as I worry failure could send me down that path again. It was a horrible time for me and I don't ever want to feel that way again.
My story goes a little like this. I moved to New Zealand two years ago, I spent 7 months amazing months there before tragedy struck. My dad had a major health scare and it was something that triggered my desire to move home. I was at a bar drinking when I got the call and like an absolute idiot got behind the wheel and drove home. I jumped two red lights on the way home and was pulled over by the cops outside my house. I was charged with EBA and also dangerous driving. That's two criminal convictions. I had zero criminal convictions in my home country. At the time, it didn't even matter to me. I was only focused on my dad and once he was better I started researching the impact of my convictions and realised just how majorly I had ****ed up. I was scheduled to fly home soon after my hearing so declined the opportunity by the duty lawyer at the time to at least fight the dangerous driving charge, she was moved by my story and understood that the circumstances dictated my actions to a certain degree. However, I wanted things done quickly and so just wanted to plead guilty in order to go home. I left NZ soon after and paid my fines on the day.
I have since been working back home and have had no further run-ins with the law. My job is on the skilled occupations list, I have a professional qualifications with CPA Australia and graduated from an Australian University. Things have settled down back home and I'd love nothing more than to give Australia a shot. Some of my closest friends work in the country and I visited it every other month when I was in NZ. Is there any chance at all that I'd get a work visa let alone an eventual PR? Is it worth my effort investing my time into this or should I just let it be? I have visited Australia since and each time declared my convictions instead of hiding it if that matters at all from a character perspective.
When this all initially happened I considered suicide because I am weak and couldn't bear to think of the opportunity I'd thrown away. I really don't want to give my self any false hope as I worry failure could send me down that path again. It was a horrible time for me and I don't ever want to feel that way again.
You made a mistake, you've paid the penalty, now it's onwards and upwards. Best of luck for the future
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Re: Work visa with criminal record
Hi. After having a look at your website, I'm interesting to learn the process by which your company arrived at the statement ' We have a reputation and success rate second to none'. I believe it's important to back up such statements with verifiable evidence. Thanks.
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Re: Work visa with criminal record
by:
Praveen Goyal
Executive Director
ME Alliance
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Praveen Goyal
Executive Director
ME Alliance
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Re: Work visa with criminal record
Not sure if this post was a response to my question? If it was intended to be, I'm sorry but it didn't answer my question at all, and far from allaying any concerns I had, it has only served to intensify them.
DIBP do NOT 'group serious criminals in the same category as those with petty offences'. A 'bad financial history' can mean anything from fraud to theft. I challenge that anyone has been refused a visa solely based on a traffic fine.
Finally, your cut and paste article seems to say that DIBP views terrorism offences and speeding fines in the same light. That is untrue, offensive and, quite frankly, ridiculous.
DIBP do NOT 'group serious criminals in the same category as those with petty offences'. A 'bad financial history' can mean anything from fraud to theft. I challenge that anyone has been refused a visa solely based on a traffic fine.
Finally, your cut and paste article seems to say that DIBP views terrorism offences and speeding fines in the same light. That is untrue, offensive and, quite frankly, ridiculous.
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Re: Work visa with criminal record
Hi. After having a look at your website, I'm interesting to learn the process by which your company arrived at the statement ' We have a reputation and success rate second to none'. I believe it's important to back up such statements with verifiable evidence. Thanks
Over 15 years I have 100% positive outcomes in finalised: partner visa applications and in 410, 457, 445 and so on and so on. My refusals have been: one skilled visa refusal due to a work experience issue and one loss in the AAT from a DIY applicant who had stuffed up. All other review applications were wins in skilled, partner, carer, 485.
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and check this link for the relevant MRT case :
V04/01932 [2006] MRTA 148 (6 March 2006)
which is in the public domain, my other review applications were not published by the MRT and are therefore subject to the Code of Conduct client confidentiality requiremets as are the particulars all my other clients.
BTW
I have had several clients tell me I do not charge enough and send a gratuity.
If you want more, consult MR GOOGLE and if you find an adverse comment, please let me know.
Last edited by old.sparkles; Oct 14th 2017 at 3:38 am. Reason: Letter / Email snipped - irrelevant
#10
Re: Work visa with criminal record
Hi. After having a look at your website, I'm interesting to learn the process by which your company arrived at the statement ' We have a reputation and success rate second to none'. I believe it's important to back up such statements with verifiable evidence. Thanks.
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Re: Work visa with criminal record
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Over 15 years I have 100% positive outcomes in finalised: partner visa applications and in 410, 457, 445 and so on and so on. My refusals have been: one skilled visa refusal due to a work experience issue and one loss in the AAT from a DIY applicant who had stuffed up. All other review applications were wins in skilled, partner, carer, 485.
<snip>
and check this link for the relevant MRT case :
V04/01932 [2006] MRTA 148 (6 March 2006)
which is in the public domain, my other review applications were not published by the MRT and are therefore subject to the Code of Conduct client confidentiality requiremets as are the particulars all my other clients.
BTW
I have had several clients tell me I do not charge enough and send a gratuity.
If you want more, consult MR GOOGLE and if you find an adverse comment, please let me know.
Over 15 years I have 100% positive outcomes in finalised: partner visa applications and in 410, 457, 445 and so on and so on. My refusals have been: one skilled visa refusal due to a work experience issue and one loss in the AAT from a DIY applicant who had stuffed up. All other review applications were wins in skilled, partner, carer, 485.
<snip>
and check this link for the relevant MRT case :
V04/01932 [2006] MRTA 148 (6 March 2006)
which is in the public domain, my other review applications were not published by the MRT and are therefore subject to the Code of Conduct client confidentiality requiremets as are the particulars all my other clients.
BTW
I have had several clients tell me I do not charge enough and send a gratuity.
If you want more, consult MR GOOGLE and if you find an adverse comment, please let me know.
Many people who post on this section of the forum are desperate to find a visa pathway to Australia, and as such are vulnerable to marketing tactics. If a claim made by an migration agent or business seems extravagant or lacking verifiable evidence, I'll question it, every time. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, and the agent/business always has the right of reply and the opportunity to back up their claims. Potential clients are then in a better position to make an informed choice.
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Re: Work visa with criminal record
Woah, all I asked for was the process by which your company arrived at its claim that it has the best success rate and reputation out of all MARA agents/businesses.
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Re: Work visa with criminal record
Yes, such a claim was and continues to be made. One of the headers on the home page of your company's website, which your forum signature links to:
WE HAVE A REPUTATION AND A SUCCESS RATE SECOND TO NONE
I'm sorry that you've taken an adversarial/defensive approach to my simple enquiry. Notwithstanding this, such enquiries, and the responses received, are a useful resource to assist people with the due diligence process so necessary when choosing a migration agent. I wish you, your business and your clients all the best.
WE HAVE A REPUTATION AND A SUCCESS RATE SECOND TO NONE
I'm sorry that you've taken an adversarial/defensive approach to my simple enquiry. Notwithstanding this, such enquiries, and the responses received, are a useful resource to assist people with the due diligence process so necessary when choosing a migration agent. I wish you, your business and your clients all the best.