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Dec 3rd 2002, 3:04 am
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to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
I am a chartered accountant from India and in practice and employment
for last
10 years and applied for PR in Oct 2001 at Mumabi consulate . Now i
would like to join a job as oracle financial functional consultant ,
for which usually people from accounting background are taken.
My concern is whether this will effect my visa application processing
as the same may be deemed as change in intended occupation from core
accounting to soft ware related job, though it requires accounting
background. Can u pls throw some light,
Thank u
nvslprasad
for last
10 years and applied for PR in Oct 2001 at Mumabi consulate . Now i
would like to join a job as oracle financial functional consultant ,
for which usually people from accounting background are taken.
My concern is whether this will effect my visa application processing
as the same may be deemed as change in intended occupation from core
accounting to soft ware related job, though it requires accounting
background. Can u pls throw some light,
Thank u
nvslprasad
Dec 3rd 2002, 8:58 am
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Re: to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
Hi Prasad
It's not good net manners to direct a newsgroup message to a specific
person. If you want the question answered by a specific person, send them
an e-mail or even better pay for his services.
Other people on this newsgroup maybe able to help.
Kieron
"prasad" wrote in message
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> I am a chartered accountant from India and in practice and employment
> for last
> 10 years and applied for PR in Oct 2001 at Mumabi consulate . Now i
> would like to join a job as oracle financial functional consultant ,
> for which usually people from accounting background are taken.
> My concern is whether this will effect my visa application processing
> as the same may be deemed as change in intended occupation from core
> accounting to soft ware related job, though it requires accounting
> background. Can u pls throw some light,
> Thank u
> nvslprasad
It's not good net manners to direct a newsgroup message to a specific
person. If you want the question answered by a specific person, send them
an e-mail or even better pay for his services.
Other people on this newsgroup maybe able to help.
Kieron
"prasad" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am a chartered accountant from India and in practice and employment
> for last
> 10 years and applied for PR in Oct 2001 at Mumabi consulate . Now i
> would like to join a job as oracle financial functional consultant ,
> for which usually people from accounting background are taken.
> My concern is whether this will effect my visa application processing
> as the same may be deemed as change in intended occupation from core
> accounting to soft ware related job, though it requires accounting
> background. Can u pls throw some light,
> Thank u
> nvslprasad
Dec 3rd 2002, 4:30 pm
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Re: to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
Hi,
I hope you show some tolerance here. Although the message is intended for
George, but it is a learning curve for other people who can gain from his
experience.
I would suggest that you learn to think in broader terms and refrain from
policing this newsgroup.
This newsgroup is about learning and sharing from experience. If you find
this information irrelevant or even bad manners you have a choice to ignore
it.
"No Spam" wrote in message
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> Hi Prasad
> It's not good net manners to direct a newsgroup message to a specific
> person. If you want the question answered by a specific person, send them
> an e-mail or even better pay for his services.
> Other people on this newsgroup maybe able to help.
> Kieron
> "prasad" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am a chartered accountant from India and in practice and employment
> > for last
> > 10 years and applied for PR in Oct 2001 at Mumabi consulate . Now i
> > would like to join a job as oracle financial functional consultant ,
> > for which usually people from accounting background are taken.
> >
> > My concern is whether this will effect my visa application processing
> > as the same may be deemed as change in intended occupation from core
> > accounting to soft ware related job, though it requires accounting
> > background. Can u pls throw some light,
> > Thank u
> >
> > nvslprasad
I hope you show some tolerance here. Although the message is intended for
George, but it is a learning curve for other people who can gain from his
experience.
I would suggest that you learn to think in broader terms and refrain from
policing this newsgroup.
This newsgroup is about learning and sharing from experience. If you find
this information irrelevant or even bad manners you have a choice to ignore
it.
"No Spam" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Prasad
> It's not good net manners to direct a newsgroup message to a specific
> person. If you want the question answered by a specific person, send them
> an e-mail or even better pay for his services.
> Other people on this newsgroup maybe able to help.
> Kieron
> "prasad" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am a chartered accountant from India and in practice and employment
> > for last
> > 10 years and applied for PR in Oct 2001 at Mumabi consulate . Now i
> > would like to join a job as oracle financial functional consultant ,
> > for which usually people from accounting background are taken.
> >
> > My concern is whether this will effect my visa application processing
> > as the same may be deemed as change in intended occupation from core
> > accounting to soft ware related job, though it requires accounting
> > background. Can u pls throw some light,
> > Thank u
> >
> > nvslprasad
Dec 3rd 2002, 5:06 pm
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Re: to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
Point taken regarding NEW people using newsgroups, but this person first posted in July 2001 and has posted over 25 messages and started over 12 threads from new (just in this newsgroup alone).
I therefore assume that this person knows the does and don'ts of newsgroups.
again point taken and I will choose to ignore these messages.
Kieron
I therefore assume that this person knows the does and don'ts of newsgroups.
again point taken and I will choose to ignore these messages.
Kieron
Originally posted by John
Hi,
I hope you show some tolerance here. Although the message is intended for
George, but it is a learning curve for other people who can gain from his
experience.
I would suggest that you learn to think in broader terms and refrain from
policing this newsgroup.
This newsgroup is about learning and sharing from experience. If you find
this information irrelevant or even bad manners you have a choice to ignore
it.
"No Spam" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Prasad
> It's not good net manners to direct a newsgroup message to a specific
> person. If you want the question answered by a specific person, send them
> an e-mail or even better pay for his services.
> Other people on this newsgroup maybe able to help.
> Kieron
> "prasad" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am a chartered accountant from India and in practice and employment
> > for last
> > 10 years and applied for PR in Oct 2001 at Mumabi consulate . Now i
> > would like to join a job as oracle financial functional consultant ,
> > for which usually people from accounting background are taken.
> >
> > My concern is whether this will effect my visa application processing
> > as the same may be deemed as change in intended occupation from core
> > accounting to soft ware related job, though it requires accounting
> > background. Can u pls throw some light,
> > Thank u
> >
> > nvslprasad
Hi,
I hope you show some tolerance here. Although the message is intended for
George, but it is a learning curve for other people who can gain from his
experience.
I would suggest that you learn to think in broader terms and refrain from
policing this newsgroup.
This newsgroup is about learning and sharing from experience. If you find
this information irrelevant or even bad manners you have a choice to ignore
it.
"No Spam" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Prasad
> It's not good net manners to direct a newsgroup message to a specific
> person. If you want the question answered by a specific person, send them
> an e-mail or even better pay for his services.
> Other people on this newsgroup maybe able to help.
> Kieron
> "prasad" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am a chartered accountant from India and in practice and employment
> > for last
> > 10 years and applied for PR in Oct 2001 at Mumabi consulate . Now i
> > would like to join a job as oracle financial functional consultant ,
> > for which usually people from accounting background are taken.
> >
> > My concern is whether this will effect my visa application processing
> > as the same may be deemed as change in intended occupation from core
> > accounting to soft ware related job, though it requires accounting
> > background. Can u pls throw some light,
> > Thank u
> >
> > nvslprasad
Dec 3rd 2002, 5:35 pm
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Re: to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
Originally posted by shorrock
Point taken regarding NEW people using newsgroups, but this person first posted in July 2001 and has posted over 25 messages and started over 12 threads from new (just in this newsgroup alone).
I therefore assume that this person knows the does and don'ts of newsgroups.
again point taken and I will choose to ignore these messages.
Kieron
Point taken regarding NEW people using newsgroups, but this person first posted in July 2001 and has posted over 25 messages and started over 12 threads from new (just in this newsgroup alone).
I therefore assume that this person knows the does and don'ts of newsgroups.
again point taken and I will choose to ignore these messages.
Kieron
Some people will never learn how to participate in a newsgroup in a "civilized" manner. Others simply need to be "introduced" to the rules.
John,
Policing the police is just as "bad" as policing the newbies, no?
Prasad,
Your lack of "manners" notwithstanding, you do not have to inform DIMIA that you intend to change jobs now, as work experience for a skilled visa is counted till the day your application is lodged. Anything that happens to your job after date of lodgement is irrelevant. However, you should drop DIMIA a note to say that you may leave your present, as DIMIA may choose to contact your present company to check your employment with them - you don't want them to get confused about your employment status prior to your lodging of your application.
Peter
Dec 3rd 2002, 8:15 pm
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Re: to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
Kieron,
my humble apologies,
I failed to understand the background and context of the issue.
my humble apologies,
I failed to understand the background and context of the issue.
Dec 3rd 2002, 8:40 pm
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Re: to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
No worries John.
I think ptlabs told us both off.
Kieron
"John" wrote in message
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> Kieron,
> my humble apologies,
> I failed to understand the background and context of the issue.
I think ptlabs told us both off.
Kieron
"John" wrote in message
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> Kieron,
> my humble apologies,
> I failed to understand the background and context of the issue.
Dec 3rd 2002, 10:41 pm
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Re: to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
On reflection I'm uncomfortable with the habit of some who ask for
advice by name. If the advice of a specific person is that important,
then you should be looking to pay for it on a professional basis.
If someone has started 12 threads from new, all asking for
information, then that person should really be hiring an agent for
professional advice, I would think.
Jeremy
>On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 06:35:28 +0000, ptlabs wrote:
>Originally posted by shorrock
>> Point taken regarding NEW people using newsgroups, but this person
>> first posted in July 2001 and has posted over 25 messages and started
>> over 12 threads from new (just in this newsgroup alone).
>> I therefore assume that this person knows the does and don'ts of
>> newsgroups.
>> again point taken and I will choose to ignore these messages.
>> Kieron
>Kieron,
>Some people will never learn how to participate in a newsgroup in a
>"civilized" manner. Others simply need to be "introduced" to the rules.
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
advice by name. If the advice of a specific person is that important,
then you should be looking to pay for it on a professional basis.
If someone has started 12 threads from new, all asking for
information, then that person should really be hiring an agent for
professional advice, I would think.
Jeremy
>On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 06:35:28 +0000, ptlabs wrote:
>Originally posted by shorrock
>> Point taken regarding NEW people using newsgroups, but this person
>> first posted in July 2001 and has posted over 25 messages and started
>> over 12 threads from new (just in this newsgroup alone).
>> I therefore assume that this person knows the does and don'ts of
>> newsgroups.
>> again point taken and I will choose to ignore these messages.
>> Kieron
>Kieron,
>Some people will never learn how to participate in a newsgroup in a
>"civilized" manner. Others simply need to be "introduced" to the rules.
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
Dec 3rd 2002, 11:43 pm
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Re: to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
Peter,
I noticed in austimeline.com that DIMIA sometime asks for reference
from your current employer, it was few months after he/she lodged
his/her application.
Yes you are correct, as long as DIMIA does not ask anything, work experience count till the day of lodgement. But anything happens
after your lodgement may still relevant, otherwise why they do ask
a reference from your current employer.
It is also possible that reference that he/she attached with the lodgement did not provide some details, and DIMIA just ask for more detail reference.
Tony
I noticed in austimeline.com that DIMIA sometime asks for reference
from your current employer, it was few months after he/she lodged
his/her application.
Yes you are correct, as long as DIMIA does not ask anything, work experience count till the day of lodgement. But anything happens
after your lodgement may still relevant, otherwise why they do ask
a reference from your current employer.
It is also possible that reference that he/she attached with the lodgement did not provide some details, and DIMIA just ask for more detail reference.
Tony
Originally posted by ptlabs
Prasad,
Your lack of "manners" notwithstanding, you do not have to inform DIMIA that you intend to change jobs now, as work experience for a skilled visa is counted till the day your application is lodged. Anything that happens to your job after date of lodgement is irrelevant. However, you should drop DIMIA a note to say that you may leave your present, as DIMIA may choose to contact your present company to check your employment with them - you don't want them to get confused about your employment status prior to your lodging of your application.
Peter
Prasad,
Your lack of "manners" notwithstanding, you do not have to inform DIMIA that you intend to change jobs now, as work experience for a skilled visa is counted till the day your application is lodged. Anything that happens to your job after date of lodgement is irrelevant. However, you should drop DIMIA a note to say that you may leave your present, as DIMIA may choose to contact your present company to check your employment with them - you don't want them to get confused about your employment status prior to your lodging of your application.
Peter
Dec 4th 2002, 2:38 am
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Re: to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
Tony,
The Migration Regulations are very clear on this:
Work experience for
1) basic requirements recent work experience criterion
2) specific work experience points criterion
3) Australian work experience bonus points criterion
all refer to employment up to the date immediately before your DIMIA application is lodged. What happens to your employment status after your DIMIA application is lodged is of no concern to DIMIA.
The cases you have referred to on austimeline.com are cases where DIMIA have asked for more references for employment within the period of time that DIMIA is interested in (right up to the date of lodgement). By law, employment status after your application is lodged is irrelevant so far as the points test is concerned.
So when DIMIA asks for the "current" employment, it simply means that it's the "most current" employment right up to the date your application was lodged. The fact that the cut-off date is your application lodgement date is also clearly indicated in the Skilled Migration Booklet when it deals with the basic requirement's recent work experience, the specific work experience and the bonus points for Aussie work experience.
Peter
The Migration Regulations are very clear on this:
Work experience for
1) basic requirements recent work experience criterion
2) specific work experience points criterion
3) Australian work experience bonus points criterion
all refer to employment up to the date immediately before your DIMIA application is lodged. What happens to your employment status after your DIMIA application is lodged is of no concern to DIMIA.
The cases you have referred to on austimeline.com are cases where DIMIA have asked for more references for employment within the period of time that DIMIA is interested in (right up to the date of lodgement). By law, employment status after your application is lodged is irrelevant so far as the points test is concerned.
So when DIMIA asks for the "current" employment, it simply means that it's the "most current" employment right up to the date your application was lodged. The fact that the cut-off date is your application lodgement date is also clearly indicated in the Skilled Migration Booklet when it deals with the basic requirement's recent work experience, the specific work experience and the bonus points for Aussie work experience.
Peter
Originally posted by a_student
Yes you are correct, as long as DIMIA does not ask anything, work experience count till the day of lodgement. But anything happens after your lodgement may still relevant, otherwise why they do ask a reference from your current employer.
It is also possible that reference that he/she attached with the lodgement did not provide some details, and DIMIA just ask for more detail reference.
Yes you are correct, as long as DIMIA does not ask anything, work experience count till the day of lodgement. But anything happens after your lodgement may still relevant, otherwise why they do ask a reference from your current employer.
It is also possible that reference that he/she attached with the lodgement did not provide some details, and DIMIA just ask for more detail reference.
Dec 4th 2002, 2:45 am
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Re: to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
Jeremy,
There's an oriental saying, translated loosely: "A One-cent coin for a one-cent merchandise".
Peter
There's an oriental saying, translated loosely: "A One-cent coin for a one-cent merchandise".
Peter
Originally posted by Jaj
On reflection I'm uncomfortable with the habit of some who ask for
advice by name. If the advice of a specific person is that important,
then you should be looking to pay for it on a professional basis.
If someone has started 12 threads from new, all asking for
information, then that person should really be hiring an agent for
professional advice, I would think.
On reflection I'm uncomfortable with the habit of some who ask for
advice by name. If the advice of a specific person is that important,
then you should be looking to pay for it on a professional basis.
If someone has started 12 threads from new, all asking for
information, then that person should really be hiring an agent for
professional advice, I would think.
Dec 4th 2002, 4:18 am
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contributions.
hey shrocks & no spam rather than take the mickey out of a person how wants advice. what have you to super stars ever contributed=diddle squat. whinjing plonkers.
theres no chance of any one asking for you two.
tipper none IT NO RULES. sorry was that shouting.
theres no chance of any one asking for you two.
tipper none IT NO RULES. sorry was that shouting.
Dec 4th 2002, 7:54 am
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Re: to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
> hey shrocks & no spam rather than take the mickey out of a person how
> wants advice. what have you to super stars ever contributed=diddle
You were talking about me
?
> theres no chance of any one asking for you two.
> tipper none IT NO RULES. sorry was that shouting.
idiot^H^H^H^H^Hstupid people remains the way they were because the never
learn.
Esc :q!
> wants advice. what have you to super stars ever contributed=diddle
You were talking about me
?> theres no chance of any one asking for you two.
> tipper none IT NO RULES. sorry was that shouting.
idiot^H^H^H^H^Hstupid people remains the way they were because the never
learn.
Esc :q!
Dec 4th 2002, 8:25 am
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Re: to GEORGE LOMBARD -CHANGE IN OCCUPATION AFTER PR APPLICATION
What the hell was that for?
For your information, I've had direct e-mails as a result of this newsgroup
asking me for information.
Maybe the people who asked me a direct question, didn't post a newsgroup
message with my name on it. These people have the manners to send an e-mail
and ask.
No way would I flame a person who was new to the newsgroup or had only
posted a few posts. But for somebody who has been active on this newsgroup
sine June 2001, couldn't possibly be classed as a newbie.
And if you had spent some time reading all of the e-mails from Shorrock &
NoSpam you will notice that they are ALL signed Kieron. They are from the
same person, me. Shorrock is the name I use when I login to britishexpats
and NOSPAM is the name I have setup in my newsgroup application.
Kieron
"tipper" wrote in message
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> hey shrocks & no spam rather than take the mickey out of a person how
> wants advice. what have you to super stars ever contributed=diddle
> squat. whinjing plonkers.
> theres no chance of any one asking for you two.
> tipper none IT NO RULES. sorry was that shouting.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
For your information, I've had direct e-mails as a result of this newsgroup
asking me for information.
Maybe the people who asked me a direct question, didn't post a newsgroup
message with my name on it. These people have the manners to send an e-mail
and ask.
No way would I flame a person who was new to the newsgroup or had only
posted a few posts. But for somebody who has been active on this newsgroup
sine June 2001, couldn't possibly be classed as a newbie.
And if you had spent some time reading all of the e-mails from Shorrock &
NoSpam you will notice that they are ALL signed Kieron. They are from the
same person, me. Shorrock is the name I use when I login to britishexpats
and NOSPAM is the name I have setup in my newsgroup application.
Kieron
"tipper" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> hey shrocks & no spam rather than take the mickey out of a person how
> wants advice. what have you to super stars ever contributed=diddle
> squat. whinjing plonkers.
> theres no chance of any one asking for you two.
> tipper none IT NO RULES. sorry was that shouting.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Dec 4th 2002, 10:48 am
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spam who do you think you are the queen maners my arse.
why have so many sign in names because people now you are a womans wee thing.
tipper glad i never went to IT collage.
why have so many sign in names because people now you are a womans wee thing.
tipper glad i never went to IT collage.
