189 Visa advice
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189 Visa advice
Hi,
I was hoping that someone may be able to help us or point us in the right direction...
We are a family of 5 and have decided we would love to move to Australia, ideally Perth.
We would like to apply for permanent residency, I believe that would be a 189 visa.
I've worked for 17 years in IT. Starting as a developer I have done business analysis, ICT systems management, ICT project management, and am currently head of project management at a uk retailer. My wife is trained as a primary school teacher and is qualified to teach 3-11 year olds (pre school and primary). She taught reception (5 year olds) for 3 years between 2004-2007 and then stopped to raise our three children who are now 5,7 & 9. She is currently self employed and runs a business from home (not teaching related)
Looking through the SOL, the only fits I can see are for Business Analysis for myself and Early Years Teacher for my wife. However, I have not done business analysis for ~13 years and do not have any recognised qualifications and my wife has not taught for 10 years (but is qualified).
The other option I can see is for a state sponsored visa. For Perth, it looks like WASMOL is on hold, so I don't believe we can pursue that. An alternative would be Adelaide as the skills list for SA includes ICT Project Manager.
So, we would like some advice if the permanent 189 visa sounds achievable, or how could we get more information.
Also, if we go for this visa and it doesn't work out, could we then pivot to apply for a state sponsored visa instead (or at the same time to hedge our bets) and would we need to pay twice in either event?
Sorry for the long post and lots of questions - even if someone could point us to somewhere to do some more research on these points that would be fantastic.
I was hoping that someone may be able to help us or point us in the right direction...
We are a family of 5 and have decided we would love to move to Australia, ideally Perth.
We would like to apply for permanent residency, I believe that would be a 189 visa.
I've worked for 17 years in IT. Starting as a developer I have done business analysis, ICT systems management, ICT project management, and am currently head of project management at a uk retailer. My wife is trained as a primary school teacher and is qualified to teach 3-11 year olds (pre school and primary). She taught reception (5 year olds) for 3 years between 2004-2007 and then stopped to raise our three children who are now 5,7 & 9. She is currently self employed and runs a business from home (not teaching related)
Looking through the SOL, the only fits I can see are for Business Analysis for myself and Early Years Teacher for my wife. However, I have not done business analysis for ~13 years and do not have any recognised qualifications and my wife has not taught for 10 years (but is qualified).
The other option I can see is for a state sponsored visa. For Perth, it looks like WASMOL is on hold, so I don't believe we can pursue that. An alternative would be Adelaide as the skills list for SA includes ICT Project Manager.
So, we would like some advice if the permanent 189 visa sounds achievable, or how could we get more information.
Also, if we go for this visa and it doesn't work out, could we then pivot to apply for a state sponsored visa instead (or at the same time to hedge our bets) and would we need to pay twice in either event?
Sorry for the long post and lots of questions - even if someone could point us to somewhere to do some more research on these points that would be fantastic.
#2
Re: 189 Visa advice
Hi,
I was hoping that someone may be able to help us or point us in the right direction...
We are a family of 5 and have decided we would love to move to Australia, ideally Perth.
We would like to apply for permanent residency, I believe that would be a 189 visa.
I've worked for 17 years in IT. Starting as a developer I have done business analysis, ICT systems management, ICT project management, and am currently head of project management at a uk retailer. My wife is trained as a primary school teacher and is qualified to teach 3-11 year olds (pre school and primary). She taught reception (5 year olds) for 3 years between 2004-2007 and then stopped to raise our three children who are now 5,7 & 9. She is currently self employed and runs a business from home (not teaching related)
Looking through the SOL, the only fits I can see are for Business Analysis for myself and Early Years Teacher for my wife. However, I have not done business analysis for ~13 years and do not have any recognised qualifications and my wife has not taught for 10 years (but is qualified).
The other option I can see is for a state sponsored visa. For Perth, it looks like WASMOL is on hold, so I don't believe we can pursue that. An alternative would be Adelaide as the skills list for SA includes ICT Project Manager.
So, we would like some advice if the permanent 189 visa sounds achievable, or how could we get more information.
Also, if we go for this visa and it doesn't work out, could we then pivot to apply for a state sponsored visa instead (or at the same time to hedge our bets) and would we need to pay twice in either event?
Sorry for the long post and lots of questions - even if someone could point us to somewhere to do some more research on these points that would be fantastic.
I was hoping that someone may be able to help us or point us in the right direction...
We are a family of 5 and have decided we would love to move to Australia, ideally Perth.
We would like to apply for permanent residency, I believe that would be a 189 visa.
I've worked for 17 years in IT. Starting as a developer I have done business analysis, ICT systems management, ICT project management, and am currently head of project management at a uk retailer. My wife is trained as a primary school teacher and is qualified to teach 3-11 year olds (pre school and primary). She taught reception (5 year olds) for 3 years between 2004-2007 and then stopped to raise our three children who are now 5,7 & 9. She is currently self employed and runs a business from home (not teaching related)
Looking through the SOL, the only fits I can see are for Business Analysis for myself and Early Years Teacher for my wife. However, I have not done business analysis for ~13 years and do not have any recognised qualifications and my wife has not taught for 10 years (but is qualified).
The other option I can see is for a state sponsored visa. For Perth, it looks like WASMOL is on hold, so I don't believe we can pursue that. An alternative would be Adelaide as the skills list for SA includes ICT Project Manager.
So, we would like some advice if the permanent 189 visa sounds achievable, or how could we get more information.
Also, if we go for this visa and it doesn't work out, could we then pivot to apply for a state sponsored visa instead (or at the same time to hedge our bets) and would we need to pay twice in either event?
Sorry for the long post and lots of questions - even if someone could point us to somewhere to do some more research on these points that would be fantastic.
Not sure why you are aiming for Perth, but WA currently has the highest levels of unemployment, and as you have discovered, they have suspended their sponsorship.
ICT Project Manager is assessed by ACS so check out their website to see if you can pass the assessment. ACS require a mix of qualification and experience.
The alternative is to check the requirements for your wife to be assessed under a teaching role. Teachers are assessed by AITSL, with early years teacher on the SOL, and primary teacher on the CSOL.
If an occupation is on the SOL, you could try for a 189 but for occupations on the CSOL only you need a 190. If going for state sponsorship, you need to check additional criteria the state asks to be met, above DIBP's criteria and that for skills assessment.
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Re: 189 Visa advice
Thanks for getting back to us so quickly! That really helps and I'll follow up on the ATS & AITSL.
My wife had come to the conclusion of Perth based on weather, beaches, house prices and outdoor lifestyle. But your point on unemployment has made me think twice! Adelaide was another area I liked the look of but Amy thought it might not be warm enough in the winter...what's your experience?
My wife had come to the conclusion of Perth based on weather, beaches, house prices and outdoor lifestyle. But your point on unemployment has made me think twice! Adelaide was another area I liked the look of but Amy thought it might not be warm enough in the winter...what's your experience?
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Re: 189 Visa advice
Thanks for getting back to us so quickly! That really helps and I'll follow up on the ATS & AITSL.
My wife had come to the conclusion of Perth based on weather, beaches, house prices and outdoor lifestyle. But your point on unemployment has made me think twice! Adelaide was another area I liked the look of but Amy thought it might not be warm enough in the winter...what's your experience?
My wife had come to the conclusion of Perth based on weather, beaches, house prices and outdoor lifestyle. But your point on unemployment has made me think twice! Adelaide was another area I liked the look of but Amy thought it might not be warm enough in the winter...what's your experience?
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Re: 189 Visa advice
Thanks for getting back to us so quickly! That really helps and I'll follow up on the ATS & AITSL.
My wife had come to the conclusion of Perth based on weather, beaches, house prices and outdoor lifestyle. But your point on unemployment has made me think twice! Adelaide was another area I liked the look of but Amy thought it might not be warm enough in the winter...what's your experience?
My wife had come to the conclusion of Perth based on weather, beaches, house prices and outdoor lifestyle. But your point on unemployment has made me think twice! Adelaide was another area I liked the look of but Amy thought it might not be warm enough in the winter...what's your experience?
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Re: 189 Visa advice
Thanks for getting back to us so quickly! That really helps and I'll follow up on the ATS & AITSL.
My wife had come to the conclusion of Perth based on weather, beaches, house prices and outdoor lifestyle. But your point on unemployment has made me think twice! Adelaide was another area I liked the look of but Amy thought it might not be warm enough in the winter...what's your experience?
My wife had come to the conclusion of Perth based on weather, beaches, house prices and outdoor lifestyle. But your point on unemployment has made me think twice! Adelaide was another area I liked the look of but Amy thought it might not be warm enough in the winter...what's your experience?
Like verystotmy I luve close to the beach - as in a 5 minute walk. We were there on Sunday afternoon to meet up with friends. First time we'd been there in a very long time. In summer when it's 40° with UV of 14 you just don't sit out. We tend to go to the shopping centre where we aren't paying for the air conditioning. Winters are spent in the house with a blanket on. (No central heat and sinhle pane windows in houses here)
Also as has been said, Perth is in a real economic slump right now. In my department we've been cut from 5 full time employees to 2. I work in a state hospital and have seen the 30% staffing cuts over the last few years. Your/your wife's competition for jobs will be the thousands who've lost their jobs in the mining downturn.
On a personal level I loved Adelaide and would have very happily lived there forever.
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Re: 189 Visa advice
Primary school teacher jobs in Perth - very, very, very difficult to come by. There is a major oversupply. Never say never but why would a school roll the dice on an unknown quantity from overseas - especially one who has been out of the game for a few years -
when there are plenty of locally trained teachers with local referees around?
Adelaide won't be much better for a primary teacher, but the economic climate is better than WA right now, though historically SA has been economically disadvantaged compared to the other states. What is your wife's business in? Could be better to pursue an Australian version of that.
when there are plenty of locally trained teachers with local referees around?
Adelaide won't be much better for a primary teacher, but the economic climate is better than WA right now, though historically SA has been economically disadvantaged compared to the other states. What is your wife's business in? Could be better to pursue an Australian version of that.
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Unless you are a Secondary School teacher, then your teaching options are very limited indeed unfortunately.
Regards,
Richard
Regards,
Richard