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Old Nov 6th 2002, 1:18 pm
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Excuse me, but some of you people need to inform oneselves a little
better. Sure, the chances are higher about 4% vs. 1.7% or 2.0% when
compared to the general public. Incest is something else. Please read
up and inform yourselves as to what incest really is. Read up on the
Bible as well. Read up on the scientific research and probability -
that is when both have the recessive gene for a disease - their
parents that is, our parents that is, need to have it in some form...

I would rather see some informative discussion on this, but from the
looks of it I think you have chosed the wrong section to make your
comments in.

I am talking about marriage here and how it relates/affects the
application for a refugee, and what should be done.

This is a topic about that, and not about your beliefs and personal
upbringing as to what you like and what you don't like, etc.



    >
    > Its interesting that you would come up with such a personal attack on
    > me for stating my opinion on the stupidity and shortsightedness about
    > the biological effects of incest.
    >
    > I still think its a very stupid thing to do, to marrry in your own
    > blood. Yes I did look into the web site that wizard pointed to? What
    > part dint you understand in it. It says clearly that the incidence of
    > defect to the child is higher in blood related marriages.
    >
    > Take a good look at this.
    > http://www.genetics.com.au/Genetics2...tSheets/13.asp
    >
    > ....talk about biology .. geeeeeeeezzzz !
    > I mean why stop with the cousin.. why not marry the sis too.
    >
    > ..as for the same sex marriage .. Ill let u have the soap box.. I am
    > curious to hear your reasoning for it....!
 
Old Nov 6th 2002, 6:15 pm
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not true!! the bible was intended to show you good and bad things. Just because incest is all over the bible dint mean GOD wanted you to follow it. Choose carefully !! HE has given us enough sense to make our (good n correct) choices



Originally posted by The Wizzard
    > Umm...in case you missed it, God does not exactly approve of people
    > boinking their cousins. Eww! You've got NO chance of any marriage going
    > through. Maybe you should go back to whatever country she is from...they
    > may be more accepting of inbreeding.
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The Christian/Jewish/Mohamadian God loves people boinking their cousins and
siblings the bible is full of it, incest and then you have to murder them
and kill them and rape them and all the other stuff it teaches. You should
read it more carefuly.
 
Old Nov 6th 2002, 6:35 pm
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If you're Muslim ,it's OK in Canada.Freedom of religion and all.If you
wanted to marry your sheep however,eyebrows would be raised.

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    > I am Canadian. I live in Ontario. I am about 27 years old. My first
    > cousing who is visiting Canada is 2 years younger than I. We are both
    > in love. I would like to marry her. She is visiting Canada from
    > Europe, and in the meantime she has applied to stay in Canada as a
    > refugee. She will have her interview sometimes in the future to see
    > whether she will be accepted or not. God will take care of that I am
    > sure. I am sure He will take care of many other things as well.
    > I would like to ask you people, who are familiar with this, or who can
    > provide information or resources to look it up or discuss this with
    > certain people who know about this, etc. Any suggestions will be
    > happily accepted. So, she will be taking the interview and see what
    > the outcome will be. I plan to marry her in the near future - in about
    > 2-3 years, God willing. If she has the interview before that and if
    > she is not accepted as a refugee, I will then have to marry her
    > earlier than 2 or 3 years as we have thought about. To me it does not
    > make a difference if I marry her in a year - assuming she is not
    > accepted as a refugee - or in 2 or 3 years.
    > I am not sure as to how this will be perceived (the civil marriage) if
    > I marry her after the interview (assuming she is not accepted as a
    > refugee). Will this be accepted, or will they not recognize it? Do I
    > need to contact a lawyer if I need to determine if my marriage is
    > legal? Please advise. Thank you!
    > A
 
Old Nov 6th 2002, 7:08 pm
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what a load of buffalo crap... bottom line is, god, any god, be he christian or jewish or hindu or moslem; LOVES dirty sex... the dirtier, the better...

pretty much every major religious text is full of incest, and as the wiz said... god loves bonking...

if the *intent* was just to show you good and bad things, whats the point of dwelling so deeply into the how's and the whats rather than the why's... stuff like the father in law putting in his seed into his daughter in law when she comes to him in her heat and then having his child who later goes on to do big and great things... i fail to see the lesson on good vs evil in that...

god sucks... at times s/he sucks parts of relatives... if god can do it, why cant the guy who made the original post... kinda hypocritical isnt it?

Originally posted by REM
not true!! the bible was intended to show you good and bad things. Just because incest is all over the bible dint mean GOD wanted you to follow it. Choose carefully !! HE has given us enough sense to make our (good n correct) choices
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Old Nov 6th 2002, 10:49 pm
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you have to factor in though that the bible wasnt actually written by any
God but by what was most likely as far as the old testament goes a horny
Hebrew guy in exile in Babylon boinking his cousin at the same tiem as
writing it, and the new testament was written mostly by a bunch of guys who
used to all hang out together and so probably had homosexual tendancies,
except jesus who boinked Mary Magdelin who was a prostitute, although i dont
think she was his cousin. oh and he did do that young boy in the tent too i
believe.


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    > what a load of buffalo crap... bottom line is, god, any god, be he
    > christian or jewish or hindu or moslem; LOVES dirty sex... the dirtier,
    > the better...
    > pretty much every major religious text is full of incest, and as the wiz
    > said... god loves bonking...
    > if the *intent* was just to show you good and bad things, whats the
    > point of dwelling so deeply into the how's and the whats rather than the
    > why's... stuff like the father in law putting in his seed into his
    > daughter in law when she comes to him in her heat and then having his
    > child who later goes on to do big and great things... i fail to see the
    > lesson on good vs evil in that...
    > god sucks... at times s/he sucks parts of relatives... if god can do
    > it, why cant the guy who made the original post... kinda
    > hypocritical isnt it?
    > Originally posted by REM
    > not true!! the bible was intended to show you good and bad things. Just
    > because incest is all over the bible dint mean GOD wanted you to follow
    > it. Choose carefully !! HE has given us enough sense to make our (good n
    > correct) choices
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Old Nov 7th 2002, 8:32 am
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"The Wizzard" wrote:
    > apparently the whole world should marry their cousin and all the genetic
    > incest argument is all lies and bigotry and it's a perfectly normal thing to
    > do.
    > so there ya go.
    >

Yeah well if gays are allowed to marry there's no reason why cousins
or even brothers and sisters for that matter...
 
Old Nov 7th 2002, 8:35 am
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"I_M_Peeved" wrote:
    > If you're Muslim ,it's OK in Canada.Freedom of religion and all.If you
    > wanted to marry your sheep however,eyebrows would be raised.

But that would be sheepist wouldn't it?
 
Old Nov 7th 2002, 12:55 pm
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[email protected] says...
    > "The Wizzard" wrote:
    > > apparently the whole world should marry their cousin and all the genetic
    > > incest argument is all lies and bigotry and it's a perfectly normal thing to
    > > do.
    > > so there ya go.
    > >
    >
    > Yeah well if gays are allowed to marry there's no reason why cousins
    > or even brothers and sisters for that matter...
    >

Regardless of moral or genetic concerns, marrying one's cousin is legal,
at least in Ontario. According to the Marriage Act, (R.S.O. 1990, c.
M.3, Form; R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 738, s. 6.), the only degrees of
consanguinity that bar the lawful solemnization of marriage are: parent,
grandparent, child, grandchild, & sibling. This includes all such
relationships, whether full or half blood, as well as adoption.

I would not advocate such a relationship, but there is nothing unlawful
about it.

Chris

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Old Nov 7th 2002, 2:33 pm
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    > Yeah well if gays are allowed to marry there's no reason why cousins
    > or even brothers and sisters for that matter...

Well maybe if they were sterilised. The problem with siblings marrying is
jsut the genetic risk to the children. Other than that whatsthe problem?
sure its weird but thats up to the people to be weird.
Seen as gay couples can't reproduce then there is no issue there in any
respect. Even if they could reproduce the only issue would be with close
relations, otherwise it's no different than any other couple.
In fact why shouldnt two gay brothers be allowed to marry each other seen as
they could never re produce, same with two lesbian sisters.
 
Old Nov 8th 2002, 11:40 pm
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I'm pretty appalled at the attitude of everyone who answered this post with hateful comments. This person asked a question, NOT an opinion. If you don't know the answer to the question, why don't you just not answer it at all? I am sure most of you have benefited from some nice and polite answers to your questions (which btw, might have seemed silly, ridiculous, repetitive, redundant, stupid, whatever, to many others)...but THEY did not bash you. Have some heart and just BUTT OUT if you don't have an answer for this person. Isn't this what this forum is all about ? Support??

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Old Nov 9th 2002, 5:25 am
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amen...

Originally posted by PatC
I'm pretty appalled at the attitude of everyone who answered this post with hateful comments. This person asked a question, NOT an opinion. If you don't know the answer to the question, why don't you just not answer it at all? I am sure most of you have benefited from some nice and polite answers to your questions (which btw, might have seemed silly, ridiculous, repetitive, redundant, stupid, whatever, to many others)...but THEY did not bash you. Have some heart and just BUTT OUT if you don't have an answer for this person. Isn't this what this forum is all about ? Support??

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Old Nov 10th 2002, 1:03 am
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And I assume you are the self-appointed moderator of this group?Get off your
pedestal.

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    > I'm pretty appalled at the attitude of everyone who answered this post
    > with hateful comments. This person asked a question, NOT an opinion.
    > If you don't know the answer to the question, why don't you just not
    > answer it at all? I am sure most of you have benefited from some nice
    > and polite answers to your questions (which btw, might have seemed
    > silly, ridiculous, repetitive, redundant, stupid, whatever, to many
    > others)...but THEY did not bash you. Have some heart and just BUTT OUT
    > if you don't have an answer for this person. Isn't this what this forum
    > is all about ? Support??
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Old Nov 16th 2002, 7:49 pm
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Maybe then, animals are fair game for marriage too.There must be some lobby
group out there getting funding from the Liberal Government devoted to this
type of perversion ,as well.The Government might be running out of ideas on
how to waste tax -payers money.This idea must be worthy of serious
consideration by these Nincompoops.Look at their track record...

"Bodza Bodza" wrote in message
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    > "The Wizzard" wrote:
    > > apparently the whole world should marry their cousin and all the genetic
    > > incest argument is all lies and bigotry and it's a perfectly normal
thing to
    > > do.
    > > so there ya go.
    > >
    > Yeah well if gays are allowed to marry there's no reason why cousins
    > or even brothers and sisters for that matter...
 
Old Nov 16th 2002, 10:09 pm
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Actually in the USA there are several people who are unofficially married to
their horses. I recall seeing it on the news a year or so ago.
I don't recall any tax payers paying for my wedding though, I would be
interested to find out how you get your wedding paid for by the tax payers
and how they determine funding based on species, relation and sexuality.


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    > Maybe then, animals are fair game for marriage too.There must be some
lobby
    > group out there getting funding from the Liberal Government devoted to
this
    > type of perversion ,as well.The Government might be running out of ideas
on
    > how to waste tax -payers money.This idea must be worthy of serious
    > consideration by these Nincompoops.Look at their track record...
    > "Bodza Bodza" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > "The Wizzard" wrote:
    > > > apparently the whole world should marry their cousin and all the
genetic
    > > > incest argument is all lies and bigotry and it's a perfectly normal
    > thing to
    > > > do.
    > > > so there ya go.
    > > >
    > >
    > > Yeah well if gays are allowed to marry there's no reason why cousins
    > > or even brothers and sisters for that matter...
 
Old Nov 17th 2002, 2:14 am
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Originally posted by The Wizzard
Actually in the USA there are several people who are unofficially married to
their horses. I recall seeing it on the news a year or so ago.
I don't recall any tax payers paying for my wedding though, I would be
interested to find out how you get your wedding paid for by the tax payers
and how they determine funding based on species, relation and sexuality.


"I_M_Peeved" wrote in message
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    > Maybe then, animals are fair game for marriage too.There must be some
lobby
    > group out there getting funding from the Liberal Government devoted to
this
    > type of perversion ,as well.The Government might be running out of ideas
on
    > how to waste tax -payers money.This idea must be worthy of serious
    > consideration by these Nincompoops.Look at their track record...
    > "Bodza Bodza" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > "The Wizzard" wrote:
    > > > apparently the whole world should marry their cousin and all the
genetic
    > > > incest argument is all lies and bigotry and it's a perfectly normal
    > thing to
    > > > do.
    > > > so there ya go.
    > > >
    > >
    > > Yeah well if gays are allowed to marry there's no reason why cousins
    > > or even brothers and sisters for that matter...


hmmmmmmmm interesting though ! not enough mankind takes each others arses.. not we want to take on the animal kingdom too?? where do we stop.. r we out of control....???....... What arrogance..!!
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