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Old Nov 5th 2002, 5:36 am   #1
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I am Canadian. I live in Ontario. I am about 27 years old. My first
cousing who is visiting Canada is 2 years younger than I. We are both
in love. I would like to marry her. She is visiting Canada from
Europe, and in the meantime she has applied to stay in Canada as a
refugee. She will have her interview sometimes in the future to see
whether she will be accepted or not. God will take care of that I am
sure. I am sure He will take care of many other things as well.

I would like to ask you people, who are familiar with this, or who can
provide information or resources to look it up or discuss this with
certain people who know about this, etc. Any suggestions will be
happily accepted. So, she will be taking the interview and see what
the outcome will be. I plan to marry her in the near future - in about
2-3 years, God willing. If she has the interview before that and if
she is not accepted as a refugee, I will then have to marry her
earlier than 2 or 3 years as we have thought about. To me it does not
make a difference if I marry her in a year - assuming she is not
accepted as a refugee - or in 2 or 3 years.

I am not sure as to how this will be perceived (the civil marriage) if
I marry her after the interview (assuming she is not accepted as a
refugee). Will this be accepted, or will they not recognize it? Do I
need to contact a lawyer if I need to determine if my marriage is
legal? Please advise. Thank you!

A
 
Old Nov 5th 2002, 6:37 am   #2
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This is the most bizarre post I've ever read on here.

Ummmm...can you say "incest"?
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Old Nov 5th 2002, 8:16 am   #3
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Are you sure you are not sick in the head or something ???



Quote:
Originally posted by Aek
I am Canadian. I live in Ontario. I am about 27 years old. My first
cousing who is visiting Canada is 2 years younger than I. We are both
in love. I would like to marry her. She is visiting Canada from
Europe, and in the meantime she has applied to stay in Canada as a
refugee. She will have her interview sometimes in the future to see
whether she will be accepted or not. God will take care of that I am
sure. I am sure He will take care of many other things as well.

I would like to ask you people, who are familiar with this, or who can
provide information or resources to look it up or discuss this with
certain people who know about this, etc. Any suggestions will be
happily accepted. So, she will be taking the interview and see what
the outcome will be. I plan to marry her in the near future - in about
2-3 years, God willing. If she has the interview before that and if
she is not accepted as a refugee, I will then have to marry her
earlier than 2 or 3 years as we have thought about. To me it does not
make a difference if I marry her in a year - assuming she is not
accepted as a refugee - or in 2 or 3 years.

I am not sure as to how this will be perceived (the civil marriage) if
I marry her after the interview (assuming she is not accepted as a
refugee). Will this be accepted, or will they not recognize it? Do I
need to contact a lawyer if I need to determine if my marriage is
legal? Please advise. Thank you!

A
 
Old Nov 5th 2002, 12:38 pm   #4
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Indeed, however a quickwebsearch revealed to me that infact you can marry
your 1st cousin in Canada unless of course tehy have recently changed the
laws. Theres like loads of weird cousin marrying sites eg
www.cousincouples.com and their factsheet:
http://www.cousincouples.com/info/facts.shtml is very informative hehe.
apparently the whole world should marry their cousin and all the genetic
incest argument is all lies and bigotry and it's a perfectly normal thing to
do.
so there ya go.




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    > This is the most bizarre post I've ever read on here.
    > Ummmm...can you say "incest"?
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Old Nov 5th 2002, 5:28 pm   #5
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Blow me away !!! U mean I ust missed out on all the cute cousins I had ......... ???? bummer !!

Correct me if my biology is wrong, Isnt marrying too close to the blood cause genetic problems to the offsprings ?? You would think twice about teh future of your children before you such a stupid thing !!!



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Indeed, however a quickwebsearch revealed to me that infact you can marry
your 1st cousin in Canada unless of course tehy have recently changed the
laws. Theres like loads of weird cousin marrying sites eg
www.cousincouples.com and their factsheet:
http://www.cousincouples.com/info/facts.shtml is very informative hehe.
apparently the whole world should marry their cousin and all the genetic
incest argument is all lies and bigotry and it's a perfectly normal thing to
do.
so there ya go.




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    > This is the most bizarre post I've ever read on here.
    > Ummmm...can you say "incest"?
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Old Nov 5th 2002, 5:56 pm   #6
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Quote:
Originally posted by REM
Blow me away !!! U mean I ust missed out on all the cute cousins I had ......... ???? bummer !!

Correct me if my biology is wrong, Isnt marrying too close to the blood cause genetic problems to the offsprings ?? You would think twice about teh future of your children before you such a stupid thing !!!
REM,

Who are you to judge??? Yes, your biology IS wrong. Check out the site Wizzard is referring to.

If that's your attitude, I am afraid to hear what you have to say about same sex marriage.

Many people come to Canada because they hope it's a more tolerant society.
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Old Nov 5th 2002, 8:51 pm   #7
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Haven't you seen Deliverance?
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Old Nov 5th 2002, 10:45 pm   #8
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i wouldn't take as fact anything you read on a website called
www.cousincouples.com as it doesn't strike me as a hotbed of gentics
research.
However if you think about it your first cousin is the offspring of your
parents sibling and a 3rd party with completely different genes (providing
they didnt marry their cousin too) and your parent related to that sibling
also married a 3rd party.
So one of your parents and one of your cousins parents share very similar
genetics yet each married a 3rd person so you are made up of only 1/4 of the
original genetics as is your cousin so any child you had would be like in
the 1/8 category possibly also given siblings arent 100% identicle unless
they are twins. SO its not as close as you may think with at least 2
different "strangers" DNA coming into play along the line.
Its not as bad as siblings procreating when they have very similar genes and
so any reccessive are very likely to pair up in a child to create the
recesive pair.
it would be quite bad if cousins married in succesive generations because
then the gene pool really does get rather small.
However noone said these couples were going to procreate so the question
then arises if both partners were say sterilised so that there was 0% chance
of procreation would it then be wrong? Or is just the fact we have been
morally and geneticaly programmed to reject such a scenario because of the
genetic problem with procreation?

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    > Originally posted by REM
    > > Blow me away !!! U mean I ust missed out on all the cute cousins I
    > > had ......... ???? bummer !!
    > >
    > > Correct me if my biology is wrong, Isnt marrying too close to the
    > > blood cause genetic problems to the offsprings ?? You would think
    > > twice about teh future of your children before you such a stupid thing
    > > !!!
    > REM,
    > Who are you to judge??? Yes, your biology IS wrong. Check out the
    > site Wizzard is referring to.
    > If that's your attitude, I am afraid to hear what you have to say about
    > same sex marriage.
    > Many people come to Canada because they hope it's a more tolerant
    > society.
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Old Nov 6th 2002, 12:01 am   #9
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G'day, all! In a recent article, aek (adiek@gmx.net) said:

    > I am Canadian. I live in Ontario. I am about 27 years old. My first
    > cousing who is visiting Canada is 2 years younger than I. We are both
    > in love. I would like to marry her. She is visiting Canada from
    > Europe, and in the meantime she has applied to stay in Canada as a
    > refugee. She will have her interview sometimes in the future to see
    > whether she will be accepted or not. God will take care of that I am
    > sure. I am sure He will take care of many other things as well.

Umm...in case you missed it, God does not exactly approve of people
boinking their cousins. Eww! You've got NO chance of any marriage going
through. Maybe you should go back to whatever country she is from...they
may be more accepting of inbreeding.
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Old Nov 6th 2002, 1:15 am   #10
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I would very much appreciate knowing anything informative and
educational which relates to my question if possible.

If you are not comfortable with http://www.cuddleinternational.org/ or
http://www.cousincouples.com/index.shtml if you are interested in
knowing something about this.
 
Old Nov 6th 2002, 2:24 am   #11
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G'day, all! In a recent article, aek (adiek@gmx.net) said:

    > If you are not comfortable with http://www.i*****mycuzzin.org/ or
    > http://www.cousinsex.com if you are interested in
    > knowing something about this.

If these sites are such a hotbed of knowledge, then what the heck are
you doing posting to this newsgroup? Surely they would have answered?

If you want 'expert' opinion, then you should phone the Canadian
consulate or immigration office and ask them.


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Old Nov 6th 2002, 2:37 am   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by lvk
REM,

Who are you to judge??? Yes, your biology IS wrong. Check out the site Wizzard is referring to.

If that's your attitude, I am afraid to hear what you have to say about same sex marriage.

Many people come to Canada because they hope it's a more tolerant society.


Its interesting that you would come up with such a personal attack on
me for stating my opinion on the stupidity and shortsightedness about
the biological effects of incest.

I still think its a very stupid thing to do, to marrry in your own
blood. Yes I did look into the web site that wizard pointed to? What
part dint you understand in it. It says clearly that the incidence of
defect to the child is higher in blood related marriages.

Take a good look at this.
http://www.genetics.com.au/Genetics2003/FactSheets/13.asp

.....talk about biology .. geeeeeeeezzzz !
I mean why stop with the cousin.. why not marry the sis too.

...as for the same sex marriage .. Ill let u have the soap box.. I am
curious to hear your reasoning for it....!
 
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I'm certain CIC will question this marriage. Especially, after trying to get in as a refugee and then when that fails trying to get in as a spouse. Cousin or not it sounds fishy. BTW You cannot sponser a cousin through family class. You are going to have a tough road. J.
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Old Nov 6th 2002, 11:33 am   #14
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A refugee from Europe? Good luck with that! Ha Ha Ha
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Old Nov 6th 2002, 1:13 pm   #15
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    > Umm...in case you missed it, God does not exactly approve of people
    > boinking their cousins. Eww! You've got NO chance of any marriage going
    > through. Maybe you should go back to whatever country she is from...they
    > may be more accepting of inbreeding.
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    > Trikky T; Vancouver, B.C. Canada
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The Christian/Jewish/Mohamadian God loves people boinking their cousins and
siblings the bible is full of it, incest and then you have to murder them
and kill them and rape them and all the other stuff it teaches. You should
read it more carefuly.
 
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