How can teacher become citizen of canada
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How can teacher become citizen of canada
Hi everyone,
im a uk physics teacher thinking of emigrating to Canada. Is it possible for me to move their and eventually become a citizen? I know i cant move there through the skills option but is there any other way people would recommend for a teacher?
Assuming I could get a job in an independent school(I know is not great place to start but an aquaintance got a job as a primary teacher) and get a temporary work visa. Is it possible for me to change that to a permanent visa after being their for a number of years and then change to citizenship a number of years after that?
Or is PNP a serious option for a Physics teacher? Id happily move to any of the provinces.
Is there another option?
Please be honest if you think theres no chance.
regards
Mark
im a uk physics teacher thinking of emigrating to Canada. Is it possible for me to move their and eventually become a citizen? I know i cant move there through the skills option but is there any other way people would recommend for a teacher?
Assuming I could get a job in an independent school(I know is not great place to start but an aquaintance got a job as a primary teacher) and get a temporary work visa. Is it possible for me to change that to a permanent visa after being their for a number of years and then change to citizenship a number of years after that?
Or is PNP a serious option for a Physics teacher? Id happily move to any of the provinces.
Is there another option?
Please be honest if you think theres no chance.
regards
Mark
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Re: How can teacher become citizen of canada
Hi everyone,
im a uk physics teacher thinking of emigrating to Canada. Is it possible for me to move their and eventually become a citizen? I know i cant move there through the skills option but is there any other way people would recommend for a teacher?
Assuming I could get a job in an independent school(I know is not great place to start but an aquaintance got a job as a primary teacher) and get a temporary work visa. Is it possible for me to change that to a permanent visa after being their for a number of years and then change to citizenship a number of years after that?
Or is PNP a serious option for a Physics teacher? Id happily move to any of the provinces.
Is there another option?
Please be honest if you think theres no chance.
regards
Mark
im a uk physics teacher thinking of emigrating to Canada. Is it possible for me to move their and eventually become a citizen? I know i cant move there through the skills option but is there any other way people would recommend for a teacher?
Assuming I could get a job in an independent school(I know is not great place to start but an aquaintance got a job as a primary teacher) and get a temporary work visa. Is it possible for me to change that to a permanent visa after being their for a number of years and then change to citizenship a number of years after that?
Or is PNP a serious option for a Physics teacher? Id happily move to any of the provinces.
Is there another option?
Please be honest if you think theres no chance.
regards
Mark
Chances of getting PR or any other permit for that matter as a teacher, are slim to none, even teachers here are having a tough time getting a job. Find a plan b, other skills you may have or if young enough a WHV.
I should figure out how to become a PR before being concerned about being a citizen.
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Re: How can teacher become citizen of canada
Hi everyone,
Assuming I could get a job in an independent school(I know is not great place to start but an aquaintance got a job as a primary teacher) and get a temporary work visa. Is it possible for me to change that to a permanent visa after being their for a number of years and then change to citizenship a number of years after that?
Or is PNP a serious option for a Physics teacher? Id happily move to any of the provinces.
Assuming I could get a job in an independent school(I know is not great place to start but an aquaintance got a job as a primary teacher) and get a temporary work visa. Is it possible for me to change that to a permanent visa after being their for a number of years and then change to citizenship a number of years after that?
Or is PNP a serious option for a Physics teacher? Id happily move to any of the provinces.
On the subject of the CEC, you might want to look at studying something post-grad in Canada instead (save hard, pick a cheap school in a cheap province, don't study pri/sec teaching), and using that as a path to the CEC.
In your field, PNP is only an option for qualified and experienced Special Needs Teachers. 67% of teaching graduates in Canada can't find full time work. A good friend in Ontario has a teaching degree and is working as a dog groomer (she loves it, but still..). Another friend in Alberta is working in Oil and Gas instead.
Good luck
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Putting aside the difficulties of teachers finding work in Canada (seriously, it's terrible), if you can get Temporary Work Permits for any job to stay here for 2 years, you will likely be eligible for PR under the Canadian Experience Class (CEC).
In any event, as has been pointed out OP, it's highly unlikely you'll get a job offer as a teacher - would an employer want to go through the paperwork/hassle/wait of hiring you with so many Canadian teachers they can hire instantly?. Have a read of this for more info - http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Truck_Driving_in_Canada
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Yes, but if the OP were working in Canada on a TWP, they could apply for PR as a FSW straight away, so not sure why they'd wait 2 years?
In any event, as has been pointed out OP, it's highly unlikely you'll get a job offer as a teacher - would an employer want to go through the paperwork/hassle/wait of hiring you with so many Canadian teachers they can hire instantly?. Have a read of this for more info - http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Truck_Driving_in_Canada
In any event, as has been pointed out OP, it's highly unlikely you'll get a job offer as a teacher - would an employer want to go through the paperwork/hassle/wait of hiring you with so many Canadian teachers they can hire instantly?. Have a read of this for more info - http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Truck_Driving_in_Canada
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Re: How can teacher become citizen of canada
Ah. Well, I thought I'd put the trucking one in just in case the OP does a bit of that on the weekends. Ahem.
This one might be useful too though. http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Teaching_in_Canada
This one might be useful too though. http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Teaching_in_Canada
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I just dropped out of a PGDE course in Scotland as a Physics teacher, there was an abundance of Canadians on the course there too (admittedly not doing Physics). Given that Canadians are even doing teacher training abroad I can't help but think the marketplace for teachers is definitely packed.
Last edited by BTJ; May 8th 2012 at 4:16 pm.
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Re: How can teacher become citizen of canada
Hi,
thanks for your quick responses everyone. I really appreciate it.
Assuming i had a firm job offer and my paper work would be sorted for TWP. What are the chances of me getting PR by CEC if the rules dont change? Would it be a formality? Or 50 a 50? or....
The reason i think i might have a chance is because of the Physics and the fact i work in a very prestigious international school. The reputation of the school might give me an edge, especially if i apply to an international/private school. International schools tend to employ expats to enhance international experience.
regards
mark
thanks for your quick responses everyone. I really appreciate it.
Assuming i had a firm job offer and my paper work would be sorted for TWP. What are the chances of me getting PR by CEC if the rules dont change? Would it be a formality? Or 50 a 50? or....
The reason i think i might have a chance is because of the Physics and the fact i work in a very prestigious international school. The reputation of the school might give me an edge, especially if i apply to an international/private school. International schools tend to employ expats to enhance international experience.
regards
mark
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But if a single Canadian is qualified and willing to do the job then you will not get an LMO and TWP. With regard to getting PR though - if you meet the requirements of the program, you get the PR.
...unless of course too many people apply, the waiting times get too long and the Minister decides to cancel applications en masse.
Also CEC is not the route you'd need to take, as most skilled TWP holders are qualified to apply under the Federal Skilled Worker program.
...unless of course too many people apply, the waiting times get too long and the Minister decides to cancel applications en masse.
Also CEC is not the route you'd need to take, as most skilled TWP holders are qualified to apply under the Federal Skilled Worker program.
Last edited by BTJ; May 9th 2012 at 1:40 am.
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Re: How can teacher become citizen of canada
Sorry BTJ bit unsure over what you mean by
Are you saying i will only get PR if i meet the inital PR requirements anyway, so TWP wouldnt matter?
When you say "Also CEC is not the route you'd need to take" Is that route i couldnt take or the PR would be better.
regards
Mark
When you say "Also CEC is not the route you'd need to take" Is that route i couldnt take or the PR would be better.
regards
Mark
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Re: How can teacher become citizen of canada
Getting a TWP isn't just a matter of what the school wants, it's also whether there's canadians who could do the job. the school would have to prove to the government that there were no canadians who are physics teachers who could do what you do to get you a twp.
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Sorry BTJ bit unsure over what you mean by
Are you saying i will only get PR if i meet the inital PR requirements anyway, so TWP wouldnt matter?
When you say "Also CEC is not the route you'd need to take" Is that route i couldnt take or the PR would be better.
regards
Mark
Are you saying i will only get PR if i meet the inital PR requirements anyway, so TWP wouldnt matter?
When you say "Also CEC is not the route you'd need to take" Is that route i couldnt take or the PR would be better.
regards
Mark
Or you could try what some other people talking about - taking advantage of a labor shortage in Alberta, finding companies who have pre-approved open LMOs and are willing to train you. But you'll probably have to take a long shot and fly over and meet people face to face first.
Or retrain and get new experience in the UK then try TWP/FSW in a new career, maybe one of the self employed options. There's lots of options, and without knowing lots of stuff about you (age, background, financial and marital situation, etc), it's hard to know which to suggest.
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Re: How can teacher become citizen of canada
Hi,
thanks again for your help.
The reason been so stubborn with applying as a teacher is because of my international school experience. In most countries international schools have a 80% expat to 20 % local staff hire. And being on the international scene a physics teacher can normally work where they want in the world. Also heard were some physics teacher shortages in canada.
Does anyone know any Physics teachers in Canada? Is the shortage getting bigger? Is there no shortage? I might wait a few years and see if physics teacher goes on the list FSW if that was the case.
regards
Mark
thanks again for your help.
The reason been so stubborn with applying as a teacher is because of my international school experience. In most countries international schools have a 80% expat to 20 % local staff hire. And being on the international scene a physics teacher can normally work where they want in the world. Also heard were some physics teacher shortages in canada.
Does anyone know any Physics teachers in Canada? Is the shortage getting bigger? Is there no shortage? I might wait a few years and see if physics teacher goes on the list FSW if that was the case.
regards
Mark
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Re: How can teacher become citizen of canada
Hi,
thanks again for your help.
The reason been so stubborn with applying as a teacher is because of my international school experience. In most countries international schools have a 80% expat to 20 % local staff hire. And being on the international scene a physics teacher can normally work where they want in the world. Also heard were some physics teacher shortages in canada.
Does anyone know any Physics teachers in Canada? Is the shortage getting bigger? Is there no shortage? I might wait a few years and see if physics teacher goes on the list FSW if that was the case.
regards
Mark
thanks again for your help.
The reason been so stubborn with applying as a teacher is because of my international school experience. In most countries international schools have a 80% expat to 20 % local staff hire. And being on the international scene a physics teacher can normally work where they want in the world. Also heard were some physics teacher shortages in canada.
Does anyone know any Physics teachers in Canada? Is the shortage getting bigger? Is there no shortage? I might wait a few years and see if physics teacher goes on the list FSW if that was the case.
regards
Mark
It's a non-starter. We have been looking at this issue for 2 years now. My husband is a chemistry/physics teacher, and there are NO jobs in canada for him and he will have PR when we move back.
Statistically, I have read that the chances of someone international finding a contract teaching job (not full time) was something like 1 in 9. I am canadian, and most of my friends, have all graduated from post secondary school with the idea of teaching. That idea has only ever amounted to a pipe dream. Each year, the government allows too many people to graduate from teachers college, and basically, they have enough teachers (in ontario for sure) to last something like 15 years, with the backlog of waiting graduates they already have.
My husband also went to private school, and has a fantastic education, but unlike britian, in canada, it doesn't count for much.
If I were you, I would retrain to do something else if you want to come over to canada.
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For the LMO they must prove that they have advertised the job all across Canada, and been unable to find a Canadian willing, or able to do the job. So as has been pointed out above, even if only one Canadian teacher applies for the job, the LMO won't be granted - and realistically, with so many Canadian teachers out of work, there will be a lot more Canadian applicants than that!
Definitely give it a try, but you might just want to have a 'Plan B'. Do you have a spouse and if so, would they have a better shot at a visa?