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Old Jan 24th 2018, 10:47 pm
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Hi I am looking for some Information. I am currently on a working holiday visa in Canada and my partner who is in the uk is planning on coming for a holiday in March I know he requires an ETA but he has recent criminal convictions none of which resulted in jail time. Can someone give me some advice on the likeliness of his application being granted?
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We still need to know what the convictions were for (and any sentence i.e. if a driving ban, how long the ban was for etc) to be able to give you any meaningful advice I'm afraid. The answer will depend on that info.
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We still need to know what the convictions were for (and any sentence i.e. if a driving ban, how long the ban was for etc) to be able to give you any meaningful advice I'm afraid. The answer will depend on that info.
Can I private mail you this please?
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Can I private mail you this please?
It would be better to put it in the forum please, so that you can get advice from all. You're anonymous so don't worry!

But if you're not comfortable giving details of the convictions then I think all you can do is carry on with his ETA app and see what happens.

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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
It would be better to put it in the forum please, so that you can get advice from all. You're anonymous so don't worry!

But if you're not comfortable giving details of the convictions then I think all you can do is carry on with his ETA app and see what happens.

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No problem 4 convictions are.

Assault £40 fine.
Convictions of possession of a class A drug x2 £100 fine and 20 hours community service
Breach of the peace - this was dropped.
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Ah. Sorry to say but I don't think he'll be visiting you anytime soon. Hopefully Former Lancastrian or PMM will see this and comment, but IMO he's inadmissible to Canada.
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Ah. Sorry to say but I don't think he'll be visiting you anytime soon. Hopefully Former Lancastrian or PMM will see this and comment, but IMO he's inadmissible to Canada.
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No problem 4 convictions are.

Assault £40 fine.
Convictions of possession of a class A drug x2 £100 fine and 20 hours community service
Breach of the peace - this was dropped.
Well if I was the examining officer at a Port Of Entry based on the 3 x convictions mentioned he wouldn't be getting entry.
If I was an IRCC officer examining an IEC application with proof of the convictions in front of me via the convictions admitted to on the form and then seeing them on a police certificate I would be denying the application.
But those are just my decisions.
I cannot speculate on what another may or may not do.
The only fact that we would both come to is that due to the convictions we would both agree that you are inadmissible.
The fact that they have just recently happened is also a negative factor as opposed to say 7 years ago.
How he chooses to proceed is his decision but he should accept the fact that having the application approved is somewhat very remote.
Letters of reference would not help in this situation. They only come into play regarding a rehabilitation application which he is not even eligible to submit until 5 years after the completion of his last offence.
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Hi thanks for the information, this is just for a holiday for one week rather than him coming over to stay? Will this still be the same circumstances?
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Hi thanks for the information, this is just for a holiday for one week rather than him coming over to stay? Will this still be the same circumstances?
Well he would have to apply for the eTA and answer the question about arrest, charges and convictions and then provide more info. With those 3 x convictions its likely the eTA would be refused so couldn't fly to Canada.
He could apply for a Temporary Resident Permit but I also think that would be refused as well.
Showing up at a Port Of Entry in Canada and the convictions are disclosed on entry I tend to believe he would be refused entry into Canada.

We tend not to do what ifs or suppose this or anything else. How he chooses to proceed knowing he is inadmissible is his choice and if caught telling lies at the border then he might end up spending a few nights in jail and worse case scenario ending up with a deportation order after an admissibility hearing.

My suggestion you visit him but not in Canada. Chances are the USA would refuse him as well.
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That is helpful thank you. He has applied for an eta and they have asked to provide more information which he has just received today and needs to attach to his application I thought it might be worth adding a supporting statement with this to add the reasons for the convictions. But I am now thinking this might not even help.
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Originally Posted by Jerik30
Hi thanks for the information, this is just for a holiday for one week rather than him coming over to stay? Will this still be the same circumstances?
He's inadmissible to Canada and that means for any reason, even just a holiday. If the community service was completed and fines were paid in 2017 then it'll be 2022 before he can apply for criminal rehab to enter Canada (5 years exactly from the end of the last sentence).

But all you can do now is see what happens with the ETA, as said above FL & I both believe he's inadmissible but you never know! Keep us posted, it would be good to know the outcome so that any forum members searching in the future can see what happened.

P.S. IMO - in my opinion.
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