immigrants

I have one question, in fact that what is the changes of the amendment of IRPA?

Does it just make a changes to issue visa faster for the Canada most need occupation, and not process some cases such as applicant has been died?

Does it mean that the six selection factors, such as the English requirement will not change?

Andrew Miller

Start reading this thread again, most importantly few of my first posts.

Amendments to the Act don't deal with selection criteria, pass mark or processing priorities - all of it will come later in future amendments to Regulations and in Instructions to follow. And we need to see it all before knowing the exact effect. Thus we need to wait.

Amendments to the Act only lay down the legal foundation for future Instructions.

immigrants

You mean that until now, CIC not intend to change the selection criteria
in the amendment of IRPA?

Andrew Miller

IRPA doesn't include anything about selection criteria - thus there is nothing to change/amend in IRPA about such. IRPA delegates details to Regulations and pass mark is in the discretion of Minister. We need to wait and see what (if anything) will be changed/amended in Regulations after IRPA amendments pass. And of course we need to wait for Instructions.

I strongly suggest you read full texts of IRPA and Regulations, so you can try to understand at least the concept of our immigration (and not only) law before asking more questions.

Andrew Miller

After 10+ days of tilted towards Liberals/NDP articles criticizing new amendments one short article stating things as they really are:

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/ne...3-3424fdac6a1b

edsask

The Conservatives are cynical, but they're not stupid. Even they realise that if they started monkeying about with the spousal application process, then they risk electoral blowback with extremely disgruntled sponsors (and not incidentally, voters) raising all hell in the press and legal system.

edsask

That article is all well and good, in particular reminding us the Liberals don't have a spotless record on getting the waiting list down. However, it doesn't address a key question: if the Conservatives are so confident in this bill, shouldn't it be introduced on its own, so its individual merits can be scrutinised and the bill possibly opposed without the government 'having' to call an election?

Looking past the issues raised in the bill (of which several have been addressed in this thread), doesn't including it on the budget bill smack of politics at its most cynical i.e. the Conservatives know that the Liberals won't dare to oppose it, because they know the Libs would likely get hammered at any resulting election? I think it does. This bill should be judged on its merits, rather than on electoral mathematics.

Andrew Miller

Liberals (and NDP) would love to have amendments tabled as separate bill - in such case they would oppose it for the sake of getting back some voters and being in better position in case of new election later. And take it to the bank - they would oppose it and changes would never happen. They and their (Liberals) use of immigration as political tool to survive in power are the only reason for the mess we have now in immigration program. If you look back to my posts from 2003 (after sep 2003 lowering of pass mark) you will see that I immediately back then predicted the mess they started. It is Liberals who used immigration program for as long as they were in power for pure political reasons, always with electoral mathematics (as you call it) as the only reason for anything. Tables turned now...

Attaching amendments to budget (a confidence vote) was very smart move, it clearly says - you (Liberals) want election then call for it and take down the budget, if you don't want election then back off and let government do best they can do to fix the problem you created in the first place.

Andrew Miller

So far no threat of defeat for C-50

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../National/home

immigrants

You mean it may be passed?

I would also like to ask, what is C-50?

Andrew Miller

Will it pass? Read the article.

Amendments to the immigration law (IRPA) are part of Bill C-50 currently into second reading in House of Commons in Canadian Parliament. You don't pay much attention to details in this thread, eh?

immigrants

"the Liberals indicated they might still let it pass"

another point it, the bill not yet passed, so it cannot say "it must pass"

I would like to ask, what is the remaining procedure to become a law / signed by Harpa?

Thank you

Andrew Miller

Nobody stated (not me for sure) that it must pass. This is why I provided link to the article so readers can see what is happening and may/may not happen.

Bill C-50 is currently at the debate/2nd reading stage. Look here for the status:

http://www.parl.gc.ca/legisinfo/inde...5413&List=stat

Still long way to go (as far as number of stages, not necessarily timeline) and if/when finally passes Bill will receive Royal Assent and will be published in Canada Gazette.

Andrew Miller

Who/what is "Harpa"? It's about time you start learning more about Canada if you really want to make it your home country.

immigrants

It should be Stephen Harper, wrong type