How many hours = 1 year full time employment?
Feb 14th 2010, 3:29 pm
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How many hours = 1 year full time employment?
Hello everyone!
Do you know how the London office / Canadian Immigration calculate what a full time job is. As in how many hours worked over a year. What is the minimum? Different industries have different levels... is there an accepted figure?
The reason i am asking (if you want to know!)
the london office have responded, and have requested that my employers write another letter detailing (the exact wording):
“please provide written confirmation from your employers indicating how many hours/week you spent at each company you worked for as well as a breakdown of the amount of time spent per job/ occupation you performed at each company. (e.g. how much time you spent in each position as you hold multiple positions.)”
The reason being: i hold 3 positions at the same time in one company. This will make sense to those that are self employed: Company Director, Company Secretary and Financial Controller (which is on THE LIST). So my day to day tasks are as Financial controller. But legally in the UK I am on the Companies House register as one of the Directors / Company Secretary. So this is why they are asking for more information.
However - i also qualify for processing as 'Vocational College Lecturer' also on THE LIST. I ticked that i had 1 years experience in this. This was a visiting lecturer position i held over 4 years so roughly worked out the hours would equal 1 year full time.
Now they are asking for more detail i am starting to panic that the actual hours dont add up to the 1 year minimum required experience to qualify. And therefore get rejected.
? me too! happy to explain more if this is not making sense.
thanks for your time in advance
BBUK
Do you know how the London office / Canadian Immigration calculate what a full time job is. As in how many hours worked over a year. What is the minimum? Different industries have different levels... is there an accepted figure?
The reason i am asking (if you want to know!)
the london office have responded, and have requested that my employers write another letter detailing (the exact wording):
“please provide written confirmation from your employers indicating how many hours/week you spent at each company you worked for as well as a breakdown of the amount of time spent per job/ occupation you performed at each company. (e.g. how much time you spent in each position as you hold multiple positions.)”
The reason being: i hold 3 positions at the same time in one company. This will make sense to those that are self employed: Company Director, Company Secretary and Financial Controller (which is on THE LIST). So my day to day tasks are as Financial controller. But legally in the UK I am on the Companies House register as one of the Directors / Company Secretary. So this is why they are asking for more information.
However - i also qualify for processing as 'Vocational College Lecturer' also on THE LIST. I ticked that i had 1 years experience in this. This was a visiting lecturer position i held over 4 years so roughly worked out the hours would equal 1 year full time.
Now they are asking for more detail i am starting to panic that the actual hours dont add up to the 1 year minimum required experience to qualify. And therefore get rejected.
? me too! happy to explain more if this is not making sense. thanks for your time in advance
BBUK
Feb 14th 2010, 4:57 pm
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Re: How many hours = 1 year full time employment?
Hi
1950 hours = 1 year's employment.
Hello everyone!
Do you know how the London office / Canadian Immigration calculate what a full time job is. As in how many hours worked over a year. What is the minimum? Different industries have different levels... is there an accepted figure?
The reason i am asking (if you want to know!)
the london office have responded, and have requested that my employers write another letter detailing (the exact wording):
“please provide written confirmation from your employers indicating how many hours/week you spent at each company you worked for as well as a breakdown of the amount of time spent per job/ occupation you performed at each company. (e.g. how much time you spent in each position as you hold multiple positions.)”
The reason being: i hold 3 positions at the same time in one company. This will make sense to those that are self employed: Company Director, Company Secretary and Financial Controller (which is on THE LIST). So my day to day tasks are as Financial controller. But legally in the UK I am on the Companies House register as one of the Directors / Company Secretary. So this is why they are asking for more information.
However - i also qualify for processing as 'Vocational College Lecturer' also on THE LIST. I ticked that i had 1 years experience in this. This was a visiting lecturer position i held over 4 years so roughly worked out the hours would equal 1 year full time.
Now they are asking for more detail i am starting to panic that the actual hours dont add up to the 1 year minimum required experience to qualify. And therefore get rejected.
? me too! happy to explain more if this is not making sense.
thanks for your time in advance
BBUK
Do you know how the London office / Canadian Immigration calculate what a full time job is. As in how many hours worked over a year. What is the minimum? Different industries have different levels... is there an accepted figure?
The reason i am asking (if you want to know!)
the london office have responded, and have requested that my employers write another letter detailing (the exact wording):
“please provide written confirmation from your employers indicating how many hours/week you spent at each company you worked for as well as a breakdown of the amount of time spent per job/ occupation you performed at each company. (e.g. how much time you spent in each position as you hold multiple positions.)”
The reason being: i hold 3 positions at the same time in one company. This will make sense to those that are self employed: Company Director, Company Secretary and Financial Controller (which is on THE LIST). So my day to day tasks are as Financial controller. But legally in the UK I am on the Companies House register as one of the Directors / Company Secretary. So this is why they are asking for more information.
However - i also qualify for processing as 'Vocational College Lecturer' also on THE LIST. I ticked that i had 1 years experience in this. This was a visiting lecturer position i held over 4 years so roughly worked out the hours would equal 1 year full time.
Now they are asking for more detail i am starting to panic that the actual hours dont add up to the 1 year minimum required experience to qualify. And therefore get rejected.
? me too! happy to explain more if this is not making sense. thanks for your time in advance
BBUK
Feb 14th 2010, 6:00 pm
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Re: How many hours = 1 year full time employment?
Would 1950 be also correct for lecturers? I dont know, just wondering as academic year is shorter?
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Feb 15th 2010, 7:35 pm
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Re: How many hours = 1 year full time employment?
[FONT="Trebuchet MS"][COLOR="Teal"][B] Company Director, Company Secretary and Financial Controller (which is on THE LIST). So my day to day tasks are as Financial controller. But legally in the UK I am on the Companies House register as one of the Directors / Company Secretary. So this is why they are asking for more information.
In a similar situation I attended board meetings once a month (12 hours a year) and spent 2-3 hours per year on company secretarial work.
Feb 18th 2010, 9:38 am
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Re: How many hours = 1 year full time employment?
Thanks to both PMM and raymsa
I have asked my HR contact at my current full time place – part of a big corporation – and she wasn’t familiar with their being an industry recognised formula for calculating hours.
Therefore I have asked the principal of the college to establish what the full time lecturers work (in this case 44 weeks in a year with classes running 10am – 5pm with prep outside of that) to give some sort of frame work.
I guess more information is better than less!
Feb 20th 2010, 3:47 pm
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Hi
i have been doing some research and have finally found something concrete! In the OP6 manual i found this:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc...p/op06-eng.pdf
Page 26
• be full-time work, which, according to R80(7), is equivalent to at least 37.5 hours of paid work
per week. Full-time work experience requirement may be met by the equivalent in part-time
paid work experience, e.g. two part-time jobs held simultaneously. Experience can be
calculated by adding up the number of weeks of full-time work, i.e. 37.5 hours per week in one
job or a total of at least 37.5 hours per week in more than one job, in one or more of the NOC
categories. Periods of work of less than 12 months during the 10 years immediately preceding
the date of the application may be added together and divided by 12 to calculate the number
of years.
This would add up to 1950 - as previously mentioned - if you simply times it by 52...
my referee at the college ended up not including a paragraph about the full time year at the school, and as it stands i did between 912 and 1216 hours. There is no hard proof - merely what we know about how the courses are run. My brain is now too tired to worry about this. i guess it is what it is!
i have been doing some research and have finally found something concrete! In the OP6 manual i found this:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc...p/op06-eng.pdf
Page 26
• be full-time work, which, according to R80(7), is equivalent to at least 37.5 hours of paid work
per week. Full-time work experience requirement may be met by the equivalent in part-time
paid work experience, e.g. two part-time jobs held simultaneously. Experience can be
calculated by adding up the number of weeks of full-time work, i.e. 37.5 hours per week in one
job or a total of at least 37.5 hours per week in more than one job, in one or more of the NOC
categories. Periods of work of less than 12 months during the 10 years immediately preceding
the date of the application may be added together and divided by 12 to calculate the number
of years.
This would add up to 1950 - as previously mentioned - if you simply times it by 52...
my referee at the college ended up not including a paragraph about the full time year at the school, and as it stands i did between 912 and 1216 hours. There is no hard proof - merely what we know about how the courses are run. My brain is now too tired to worry about this. i guess it is what it is!
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Mar 16th 2010, 6:31 pm
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Re: How many hours = 1 year full time employment?
So they discount periods of annual or enforced leave then?
We are looking at one year in April as vocational college instructor - ie started work mid April 2009. Does that then mean we have to wait a further 13 weeks, as that is what they have to take as holiday!!
Every time I think we are nearly there, the goalposts move even further.
We are looking at one year in April as vocational college instructor - ie started work mid April 2009. Does that then mean we have to wait a further 13 weeks, as that is what they have to take as holiday!!
Every time I think we are nearly there, the goalposts move even further.
Mar 16th 2010, 7:59 pm
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Re: How many hours = 1 year full time employment?
[F] Hello everyone!
Do you know how the London office / Canadian Immigration calculate what a full time job is. As in how many hours worked over a year. What is the minimum? Different industries have different levels... is there an accepted figure?
The reason i am asking (if you want to know!)
the london office have responded, and have requested that my employers write another letter detailing (the exact wording):
“please provide written confirmation from your employers indicating how many hours/week you spent at each company you worked for as well as a breakdown of the amount of time spent per job/ occupation you performed at each company. (e.g. how much time you spent in each position as you hold multiple positions.)”
The reason being: i hold 3 positions at the same time in one company. This will make sense to those that are self employed: Company Director, Company Secretary and Financial Controller (which is on THE LIST). So my day to day tasks are as Financial controller. But legally in the UK I am on the Companies House register as one of the Directors / Company Secretary. So this is why they are asking for more information.
However - i also qualify for processing as 'Vocational College Lecturer' also on THE LIST. I ticked that i had 1 years experience in this. This was a visiting lecturer position i held over 4 years so roughly worked out the hours would equal 1 year full time.
Now they are asking for more detail i am starting to panic that the actual hours dont add up to the 1 year minimum required experience to qualify. And therefore get rejected.
? me too! happy to explain more if this is not making sense.
thanks for your time in advance
BBUK
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Do you know how the London office / Canadian Immigration calculate what a full time job is. As in how many hours worked over a year. What is the minimum? Different industries have different levels... is there an accepted figure?
The reason i am asking (if you want to know!)
the london office have responded, and have requested that my employers write another letter detailing (the exact wording):
“please provide written confirmation from your employers indicating how many hours/week you spent at each company you worked for as well as a breakdown of the amount of time spent per job/ occupation you performed at each company. (e.g. how much time you spent in each position as you hold multiple positions.)”
The reason being: i hold 3 positions at the same time in one company. This will make sense to those that are self employed: Company Director, Company Secretary and Financial Controller (which is on THE LIST). So my day to day tasks are as Financial controller. But legally in the UK I am on the Companies House register as one of the Directors / Company Secretary. So this is why they are asking for more information.
However - i also qualify for processing as 'Vocational College Lecturer' also on THE LIST. I ticked that i had 1 years experience in this. This was a visiting lecturer position i held over 4 years so roughly worked out the hours would equal 1 year full time.
Now they are asking for more detail i am starting to panic that the actual hours dont add up to the 1 year minimum required experience to qualify. And therefore get rejected.
? me too! happy to explain more if this is not making sense. thanks for your time in advance
BBUK
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Mar 16th 2010, 8:09 pm
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Re: How many hours = 1 year full time employment?
So they discount periods of annual or enforced leave then?
We are looking at one year in April as vocational college instructor - ie started work mid April 2009. Does that then mean we have to wait a further 13 weeks, as that is what they have to take as holiday!!
Every time I think we are nearly there, the goalposts move even further.
We are looking at one year in April as vocational college instructor - ie started work mid April 2009. Does that then mean we have to wait a further 13 weeks, as that is what they have to take as holiday!!
Every time I think we are nearly there, the goalposts move even further.
Mine was a bit odd as i was a 'visiting vocational lecturer' and i worked across 4 years. I would make sure the hours add up if you were in this situation or part time. The Immigration officer is making sure ( i believe) that i worked as a financial controller all the time for the other company.
Hi Rob - you are so right - keep it simple! I was just making sure i had covered everything and was worried about just saying my title was company director when there is nothing about 'company directors' on the list. I know its not title specific and more about the duties / responsibilities had... so i put everything i had been known by. Hopefully my reference letter from business partner will clear up the confusion. Its hard to make things sound really clear when you know what your trying to say!
Thanks for posting...
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Mar 17th 2010, 8:01 am
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Re: How many hours = 1 year full time employment?
A lot of people are employed 35 hours a week contractually, but do far more in reality!
Permanent teachers/lecturers are employed year round. Hopefully that will be ok then.
Permanent teachers/lecturers are employed year round. Hopefully that will be ok then.
Mar 17th 2010, 4:48 pm
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Re: How many hours = 1 year full time employment?
Hi,
Does anybody know if there any chance to squeeze for example 2 years part-time employment (under 20h/week) to 1 year full-time equivalent? Or I must have only full-time records in employment history?
Thanks.
Does anybody know if there any chance to squeeze for example 2 years part-time employment (under 20h/week) to 1 year full-time equivalent? Or I must have only full-time records in employment history?
Thanks.
Mar 20th 2010, 7:27 pm
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Re: How many hours = 1 year full time employment?
i am under the impression that as long as your experience adds up to 1 year full time - even if part time it will count.
See earlier post below for more info - and search the cic site it has a lot of information re this.
Good luck
