mawood47

I am asking if other members witch are using Gas Convector Heating I am considering using next time round their is a modern unit witch as a Lampart Gala Elegance 30 4kw Beige cooler efficiency 87% Glass front live flame and would look attractive with stone cladding on the wall behind the unit their is only 24m2 ground floor plus same up stars so yes running two units and new gas direct water heater gas cooker rather then install new chimney and then wood boiler for central heating etc. so I hoop my chose of new heating will not be to expensive to run so any help appreciated digger47

Jack_Russells4ever

Digger, Have you considered the impact of Russian gas supplies to Western Europe be disrupted or cut off? That could drive prices much higher. I don't know your situation at all but I would have a plan "B" if I were you. When We come over we wouldn't even consider buying a place that we couldn't use a fireplace or wood stove even if Gas is available. It gets way too cold to have no source of heat if Gas is to expensive or unavailable.

mawood47

thanks Jack I was a wear of the present and future situation I was comparing the price to install a Gas against Wood but I was after the lowest installation and Gas came out less to install digger

PaulinEger

We have 2 old gas convection heaters (along with a wood burner). We were very wary of using them due to the number of people who told us that they were expensive. However, we did use them a lot over winter and our gas bills are ridiculously low. Less than 3,000 huf per month. We also have a gas cooker and water heater.
The down side is that they are ugly.
We're now considering some sort of cserepkalyha or tiled stove with a back boiler and fit modern radiators and get rid of the gas convection heaters.

mawood47

Thanks young man, The ones I was looking at are the new generation ceramic casings with glass front 86.32fh as to wood burners then cost of stove and chimney say 260.00fh and for the last 4 years my time with wood stoves as not been a good one I never seam to get them running wright no mater witch way I use it digger

fidobsa

Is this for your rural place? Is there mains gas or are you talking about bottled gas? For my first winter here I was using 3 portable Calor type heaters I brought from UK but converted for Hungarian bottles. Initially I got the smaller size bottles but they were each lasting less than a week. I then got one of the bigger bottles and that would last about 3 weeks. For summer use I also use bottle gas for cooking and a large bottle lasts over a year.

mawood47

I their fidodsa, This for next property witch to-day, once received up to date Dater from land registration office I will pay deposit on and agreed selling terms to exchange contracts date, Their is Mans Gas into as well as Electricity and Phone line Drilled Well, I do not want be installing a Heating and Gas Water heater as low cost as possible, in-to this part of the house 24 m2 until I am able to sell my other place, to fund a extension digger47

Rural Hungary

If well insulated, it should be just as cheap to run as wood Digger. We have a client with similar heaters to those you mention but in a large 3 bed property and they have never complained about the cost - though it is a holiday home and only used for a couple of weeks during the winter. We know of several people using both new and old convector heaters and the only ones who seem to complain about the price have poor insulation or damp issues in the property.

mawood47

Thanks, but same I seed earlier, I have Gas in but no Chimney cost is 110.00fh. for a 5 meter then cost to have specialist to fix say 40.00fh a decent 8kw stove 86.00fh and in the past running it through was a problem through the night the new place is 26m2 and as I increase the size then add Moore heaters no moor cold mornings with do drops freezing on end of my nose standing we weeing and it freezing my breathing like a morning fog I am after a bit of comfort, I wish I had funds to have every thing like a Combo Gas Boiler rad,s etc. so take care seey digger47

Peter_in_Hungary

You don't need a chimney for a gas combi boiler, you can have a balanced flue through the wall. The convector heaters should also have a balanced flue, one for each heater, especially if you are going to have good windows and doors that don't blow a gale through your house.

One problem I find with convectors is that you can't program them, just manually turn them up and down. Also if you are going to have convectors what will you do for hot water, the standard 'electric boiler' is said to be more expensive than gas to run and if your new place has an old electric water heater then when you put the cost of a new water heater on to the cost of the convectors a combi may not seem that much more and certainly adding a radiator when you increase the size will be cheaper than another convector.

R.H You said "If well insulated, it should be just as cheap to run as wood" yes - and if its not well insulated it will be as expensive to run as wood The cost of wood vs gas is regardless of whether the insulation is good or bad. Generally oven ready wood is the same or a bit more than gas, but if you buy logs and spend your life energy chopping it up then savings can be made. (Depending upon how you get the logs and even more so how well seasoned the fire wood is)

mawood47

Morning Peter, whilst I agree on Wood Stoves I think now for me go to Gas as I seed early to have comfort instant heating and hot water. with out the hassle of firing up a wood stove and not being in control of the room and water heat, so I will go for a Gas Combo unit witch is the same price as getting a Gas water heater and Convector I no I have to submit to Gas Board a Heating plan and effective document, but I have another year before it as to installed. so, as to walls it is 30cm brick I have to under pin it to that 10cm EPS insulation, Internal wall dig out narrow footing to support a 125mm Ytong Block, the floor is no good so DPC 10cm EPS30 10CM screed I could go on but leave at this for now digger47

Rural Hungary

LOL, I wasn't going that in depth Peter. Knowing Digger is now looking for an easier existence, just a general reassurance that if well insulated, it's not going to cost him an arm and a leg to heat - unless there is a surge in the price of gas.

Digger, are you getting my emails? If not, check your spam folder.

mawood47

Hi RH no email received when sent I check in box etc. send pm to give again digger47

Rural Hungary

3 days ago Digger, will send copy by PM

fidobsa

Perhaps some of your emails are going astray, I have not had a reply to my email I sent you on August 7.