Coal/Smokeless Fuel
#1
Coal/Smokeless Fuel
I am getting desperately short of seasoned wood for the stove and most of the firewood available is unseasoned so I would like to buy some coal or smokeless fuel. I have been trying to do Google searches but I just seem to get all sorts of irrelevant stuff such as anthracite coloured cars! Is coal available in Hungary?
#2
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Re: Coal/Smokeless Fuel
Coal is available in Hungary but it is generally brown coal (lignite) which produces a thick smoke that smells awful and is mined in Hungary.
The new(ish) Mátrai Erőmű (Mátra power station) was designed to burn this in a triple expansion steam turbine (the power station is next to the mine), this new power station was supposed to replace the Ajka power station which was converted to wood firing as an interim with a big EU grant to run until the Mátra came on line (This is what I remember from an article the wife got to translate some years back)
- needless to say the Ajka power station is still running and importing wood from Slovakia as well as swallowing up everything local!!
Anyway back to the question - brown coal is sometimes available in the local Tüzép. It is often sold pressed into bricketts. I have never seen 'proper' coal such as polish anthracite or welsh steam coal or anything approaching that quality.
The new(ish) Mátrai Erőmű (Mátra power station) was designed to burn this in a triple expansion steam turbine (the power station is next to the mine), this new power station was supposed to replace the Ajka power station which was converted to wood firing as an interim with a big EU grant to run until the Mátra came on line (This is what I remember from an article the wife got to translate some years back)
- needless to say the Ajka power station is still running and importing wood from Slovakia as well as swallowing up everything local!!
Anyway back to the question - brown coal is sometimes available in the local Tüzép. It is often sold pressed into bricketts. I have never seen 'proper' coal such as polish anthracite or welsh steam coal or anything approaching that quality.
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Re: Coal/Smokeless Fuel
Coal is available in Hungary but it is generally brown coal (lignite) which produces a thick smoke that smells awful and is mined in Hungary.
The new(ish) Mátrai Erőmű (Mátra power station) was designed to burn this in a triple expansion steam turbine (the power station is next to the mine), this new power station was supposed to replace the Ajka power station which was converted to wood firing as an interim with a big EU grant to run until the Mátra came on line (This is what I remember from an article the wife got to translate some years back)
- needless to say the Ajka power station is still running and importing wood from Slovakia as well as swallowing up everything local!!
Anyway back to the question - brown coal is sometimes available in the local Tüzép. It is often sold pressed into bricketts. I have never seen 'proper' coal such as polish anthracite or welsh steam coal or anything approaching that quality.
The new(ish) Mátrai Erőmű (Mátra power station) was designed to burn this in a triple expansion steam turbine (the power station is next to the mine), this new power station was supposed to replace the Ajka power station which was converted to wood firing as an interim with a big EU grant to run until the Mátra came on line (This is what I remember from an article the wife got to translate some years back)
- needless to say the Ajka power station is still running and importing wood from Slovakia as well as swallowing up everything local!!
Anyway back to the question - brown coal is sometimes available in the local Tüzép. It is often sold pressed into bricketts. I have never seen 'proper' coal such as polish anthracite or welsh steam coal or anything approaching that quality.
#4
Re: Coal/Smokeless Fuel
Thanks for the replies. I have just sent an email enquiry to a firm that sells briquettes of compressed sawdust so I will see if they deliver to my village. We actually have a factory in the village that made fuel pellets but I think it closed down a couple of years ago. The pellets are probably not suitable for a normal stove anyway.
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Re: Coal/Smokeless Fuel
Thanks for the replies. I have just sent an email enquiry to a firm that sells briquettes of compressed sawdust so I will see if they deliver to my village. We actually have a factory in the village that made fuel pellets but I think it closed down a couple of years ago. The pellets are probably not suitable for a normal stove anyway.
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Re: Coal/Smokeless Fuel
Our local Tuzep still has plenty of logs and coal for sale. Some years ago when I thought of getting some coal in so I could bank up my fires for the night, I was told by Tuzep that they don't deliver anything less than a ton which was far more than I wanted. Last month I had a delivery of logs, not from Tuzep but from a firm who supplies most of the village and paid 16000 forint a cubic metre which included cutting to size and delivery.
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Re: Coal/Smokeless Fuel
I got a reply from the briquette firm but they seem very expensive:
Dear Sir,
"We deliver products, but just if it is at least 1 tonn (1 pallet).
Slovakian briquette: 68.000 FT.
Ukrain briquette: 65.000 FT.
RUF briquette: 62.000 FT."
I don't know if I'm right but it looks like these prices are ten times what they list on their website:
Fabrikett és tüzelőanyag
The word "mázsa" seems to be ambiguous but I'm taking it to mean a pallet load if that is the way the stuff is normally sold.
Dear Sir,
"We deliver products, but just if it is at least 1 tonn (1 pallet).
Slovakian briquette: 68.000 FT.
Ukrain briquette: 65.000 FT.
RUF briquette: 62.000 FT."
I don't know if I'm right but it looks like these prices are ten times what they list on their website:
Fabrikett és tüzelőanyag
The word "mázsa" seems to be ambiguous but I'm taking it to mean a pallet load if that is the way the stuff is normally sold.
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Re: Coal/Smokeless Fuel
I got a reply from the briquette firm but they seem very expensive:
Dear Sir,
"We deliver products, but just if it is at least 1 tonn (1 pallet).
Slovakian briquette: 68.000 FT.
Ukrain briquette: 65.000 FT.
RUF briquette: 62.000 FT.
I don't know if I'm right but it looks like these prices are ten times what they list on their website:
Fabrikett és tüzelőanyag
The word "mázsa" seems to be ambiguous but I'm taking it to mean a pallet load if that is the way the stuff is normally sold.
Dear Sir,
"We deliver products, but just if it is at least 1 tonn (1 pallet).
Slovakian briquette: 68.000 FT.
Ukrain briquette: 65.000 FT.
RUF briquette: 62.000 FT.
I don't know if I'm right but it looks like these prices are ten times what they list on their website:
Fabrikett és tüzelőanyag
The word "mázsa" seems to be ambiguous but I'm taking it to mean a pallet load if that is the way the stuff is normally sold.
And yes these briquettes are an expensive way to buy firewood
#9
Re: Coal/Smokeless Fuel
We tried the compressed paper bricks Digger but found they gave out little heat and created a lot of ash so gave up on that idea!
Fib, our neighbour across the road has seasoned wood if you are out that way? Email me if you want the details.
Fib, our neighbour across the road has seasoned wood if you are out that way? Email me if you want the details.
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Re: Coal/Smokeless Fuel
first Job Tree felling almond and walnut trees down on new plot still have logs for start thanks digger47