In To-day's Newspapers
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
Sorry Noni, but I am jumping in and replying to Bipat:
It is probably because of the publicity North Goa receives in the rest of India projecting the image erotic abandon, freedom and a local Goan population willing to sell their souls for a depreciating rupee. Ive also come across an element of envy which easily fuels bad behaviour. South Goa on the other hand has reacted to bad behaviour matching it with severe treatment of abusers, and it has always had the reputation of not compromising with poor attitudes even with the risk that comes with being overwhelmed in numbers. Word of mouth, cheap telephone access, the Indian tendency to embellish, and the total absence of any contra movement by local Goans in North Goa doesnt help. In fact, I am surprised by the latest movement of local Goans in North Goa, into hinterland villages where they themselves hope to to get away from the mess which is enriching them. There will come a time, sooner than later, when real Goans will be applying for UK residency when there is no where to hide from the crap.
It is probably because of the publicity North Goa receives in the rest of India projecting the image erotic abandon, freedom and a local Goan population willing to sell their souls for a depreciating rupee. Ive also come across an element of envy which easily fuels bad behaviour. South Goa on the other hand has reacted to bad behaviour matching it with severe treatment of abusers, and it has always had the reputation of not compromising with poor attitudes even with the risk that comes with being overwhelmed in numbers. Word of mouth, cheap telephone access, the Indian tendency to embellish, and the total absence of any contra movement by local Goans in North Goa doesnt help. In fact, I am surprised by the latest movement of local Goans in North Goa, into hinterland villages where they themselves hope to to get away from the mess which is enriching them. There will come a time, sooner than later, when real Goans will be applying for UK residency when there is no where to hide from the crap.
So that those of the 'cloth cap' variety mentioned by PJ and can afford it, may come to drink and leer. Much like those in the UK who buy the Sun for page 3 girls or buy the top shelf mags. (While "wifey" does the shopping).
There are also those who are uneducated in rubbish disposal and travel behaviour.
Both these groups are a small minority of Indians in general; most of whom never give Goa a thought.
#5177
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
" women lying on the beach in the equivalent of 'bra and pants' something completely alien to their family customs"
Bipat - you are on the wrong wave length again, one rule for one, and one for another! We ladies don't want to look at Indian men in their brownies, which look even worse when wet. 99.9% of other touists dont go around leering like these people do. The indian tourists have got into trouble for taking photo's on their phones of ladies in their bikini's and more worrying is they take photo's of little children.
Bipat - you are on the wrong wave length again, one rule for one, and one for another! We ladies don't want to look at Indian men in their brownies, which look even worse when wet. 99.9% of other touists dont go around leering like these people do. The indian tourists have got into trouble for taking photo's on their phones of ladies in their bikini's and more worrying is they take photo's of little children.
Last edited by noni; May 17th 2012 at 9:58 pm.
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
" women lying on the beach in the equivalent of 'bra and pants' something completely alien to their family customs"
Bipat - you are on the wrong wave length again, one rule for one, and one for another! We ladies don't want to look at Indian men in their brownies, which look even worse when wet. 99.9% of other touists dont go around leering like these people do. The indian tourists have got into trouble for taking photo's on their phones of ladies in their bikini's and more worrying is they take photo's of little children.
Bipat - you are on the wrong wave length again, one rule for one, and one for another! We ladies don't want to look at Indian men in their brownies, which look even worse when wet. 99.9% of other touists dont go around leering like these people do. The indian tourists have got into trouble for taking photo's on their phones of ladies in their bikini's and more worrying is they take photo's of little children.
(I must say as I have said before I have never seen these items of underwear).
Who are the 99.9 % of tourists? do you mean Indian tourists? My point was that these bikinis may be ordinary to us they are completely outside respectable Indian custom (for women) and some low-class men will stare.
Photos: on this forum I have read information to use a "long lens" when photographing Indian women as they "may not like it". and how many photos of little "brown eyed " Indian children appear on forum photo galleries. Yes you are right one rule for tourists and another for the savages/natives (as they seem to be viewed by some).
I just read the " I laughed" thread---- ?????? perhaps you could sell these posts in pamphlet form on the beach, you could possibly make a lot of money from the leering brigade????? (Joke)
Last edited by Bipat; May 17th 2012 at 10:47 pm.
#5179
Re: In To-day's Newspapers
I am not quite sure I understand; why do you look then at the men in their underwear then?
(I must say as I have said before I have never seen these items of underwear).
Who are the 99.9 % of tourists? do you mean Indian tourists? My point was that these bikinis may be ordinary to us they are completely outside respectable Indian custom (for women) and some low-class men will stare.
Photos: on this forum I have read information to use a "long lens" when photographing Indian women as they "may not like it". and how many photos of little "brown eyed " Indian children appear on forum photo galleries. Yes you are right one rule for tourists and another for the savages/natives (as they seem to be viewed by some).
(I must say as I have said before I have never seen these items of underwear).
Who are the 99.9 % of tourists? do you mean Indian tourists? My point was that these bikinis may be ordinary to us they are completely outside respectable Indian custom (for women) and some low-class men will stare.
Photos: on this forum I have read information to use a "long lens" when photographing Indian women as they "may not like it". and how many photos of little "brown eyed " Indian children appear on forum photo galleries. Yes you are right one rule for tourists and another for the savages/natives (as they seem to be viewed by some).
There is a difference in taking photo's of children when you have asked the parents permission.
Low class indians - wow! how can they afford these expensive camera phones?
How would you like me to address Indians? I think Savages is derogatory term.
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I can assure you I don't like to look at the brown undies, but when the dirty men come and stand by your sunbed whilst you are minding your own business reading you cannot help but look. Ugh! at least I can take my glasses off.
There is a difference in taking photo's of children when you have asked the parents permission.
Low class indians - wow! how can they afford these expensive camera phones?
How would you like me to address Indians? I think Savages is derogatory term.
There is a difference in taking photo's of children when you have asked the parents permission.
Low class indians - wow! how can they afford these expensive camera phones?
How would you like me to address Indians? I think Savages is derogatory term.
"Savages" the word has been frequently used in recent posts by one poster and apparently accepted.
Lets leave it there Noni. I can't change your general view of "Indians".
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Believe me the Savages have found the south now, its heading the same way.
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GERONIMO, another savage.
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I for one always ask the girls on the beach if I can take their photo's and those of the children - it is only good manners especially in this day and age of all the "pervs" a must. The girls love having their photo's taken, bring their children and half the village to the beach to have photo's taken, then we have them printed for them.
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I for one always ask the girls on the beach if I can take their photo's and those of the children - it is only good manners especially in this day and age of all the "pervs" a must. The girls love having their photo's taken, bring their children and half the village to the beach to have photo's taken, then we have them printed for them.
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I for one always ask the girls on the beach if I can take their photo's and those of the children - it is only good manners especially in this day and age of all the "pervs" a must. The girls love having their photo's taken, bring their children and half the village to the beach to have photo's taken, then we have them printed for them.
A number of tourists though and travellers just take photos without regard for manners as though they are taking snaps of the local animal life.
Tourists vary in their knowledge of other's customs and sensibilities as do Indian people.
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India is the only place I have visited where persistently and consistently money is sought for the privilege of taking a photo.
Now there's a custom and sensibility we are all familiar with.........
the outstretched hand.
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Now there's a custom and sensibility we are all familiar with.........
the outstretched hand.
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Do you take photos of complete strangers in the streets of the UK?
How would you react if an Indian tourist tried to photograph you in UK? Just interested.
#5190
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One of my teenage Daughters abiding memories of the few months she stayed with me in Goa, was being pursued by cell phone toting Indian males, who had no regard for any manners. Making her uncomfortable almost everywhere she ventured, not dressed in bra pants, but sensible tee shirt, shorts, trainers, you know like most on holiday. SAVAGES