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Old Dec 31st 2017, 6:30 am   #1
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Have a look at the website for Deutsche Bahn. The English version is pretty good. Then compare it to the product we get from the asinine Branson in Britain.

Go beyond the website and compare the experience on the two different systems.
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Have a look at the website for Deutsche Bahn. The English version is pretty good. Then compare it to the product we get from the asinine Branson in Britain.

Go beyond the website and compare the experience on the two different systems.
And then visit sncf.fr to reinforce the opinion you've just formed.
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Interesting theory, pity the german website doesnt function correctly on my ipad pro, guess theres a reason why the virgin ones simpler.

However nobodys got time to compare dumb websites, and actually very few people would book via the virgin site, trainline etc are far more useful as they arent com pany centric, and tickety split if you really want low costs.

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Interesting theory, pity the german website doesnt function correctly on my ipad pro, guess theres a reason why the virgin ones simpler.

However nobodys got time to compare dumb websites, and actually very few people would book via the virgin site, trainline etc are far more useful as they arent com pany centric, and tickety split if you really want low costs.

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Both work perfectly fine on my MacBook Pro and on my Android mobile.

This evening - get a better internet.

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Old Jan 1st 2018, 9:09 am   #5
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Forget cyberspace. Compare the trains. Time for us to get rid of Branson. German Railways are publicly owned. Ours should be too !
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Forget cyberspace. Compare the trains. Time for us to get rid of Branson. German Railways are publicly owned. Ours should be too !
Not all is so great with DB either. You will find out once you need to use them frequently. They announce 5 mins delay and 40 mins you still wait. May be trains in UK are worse?
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The rolling stock is better but punctuality is pretty much the same.
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Old Jan 1st 2018, 1:44 pm   #8
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Have you looked at prices ? I suppose Mr Branson needs oodles of money for his expensive hobbies, but REALLY !
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Actually more comparable than you think.

https://www.seat61.com/uk-europe-tra...omparison.html
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The crunch for me is the cost of a ticket when you turn up and buy it. Even the best planners in our midst have family emergencies.

Public ownership of the railway network is the way.
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Possibly but only after Brexit. EU competition law prevents the wholesale renationalisation of railways.
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Possibly but only after Brexit. EU competition law prevents the wholesale renationalisation of railways.
No, that is not correct. EU competition law strengthens competition between owners of railways no matter if they are private companies or states. The only thing that does not work under EU rule is that you have a state monopolies that do not have to compete with rivals to win bids.
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No, that is not correct. EU competition law strengthens competition between owners of railways no matter if they are private companies or states. The only thing that does not work under EU rule is that you have a state monopolies that do not have to compete with rivals to win bids.
Which is what I said.
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The crunch for me is the cost of a ticket when you turn up and buy it. Even the best planners in our midst have family emergencies.

Public ownership of the railway network is the way.
There are a number of ways for scot47 to save money when he turn up to buy his rail tickets -

1) If I remember correctly, as a resident of Bute, scot47 qualifies for a National Entitlement card issued by the Argyll and Bute Council. A National Entitlement card issued by one of the councils in the formal Strathclyde regional council area (such as Argyll & Bute) is entitle to a rail concession fare of £1 single or £1.40 return for rail journeys less than 10 miles within the former Strathclyde regional council area.

Change to Strathclyde Concessionary Travel Scheme Fares - SPT

2) He can always get a Senior rail card which will get him a third off for off peak tickets.

Spare a thought to those of us who don't qualify for concession cards or rail cards!
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Old Jan 4th 2018, 7:29 pm   #15
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I have a Concessionary Travel Card. I also have a Disabled Railcard.. Buying a ticket to a station in England from here on the day of travel is still prohibitively expensive. Elderly relatives have an inconvenient habit of passing on without giving warning.
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