UK votes to leave
#91
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Re: UK votes to leave
I have thought of a downside to having a passport from a european country if you continue to live in the UK.
If I were to take a UK car to France , then as a citizen of Europe I would not be allowed to drive it in the EU.
Might be Ok for me to get round the regulations as post brexit citizen of the UK, but what about all the thousands of French who currently live in London if they choose to remain and drive a UK regostered car ?
If I were to take a UK car to France , then as a citizen of Europe I would not be allowed to drive it in the EU.
Might be Ok for me to get round the regulations as post brexit citizen of the UK, but what about all the thousands of French who currently live in London if they choose to remain and drive a UK regostered car ?
#92
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Re: UK votes to leave
I have thought of a downside to having a passport from a european country if you continue to live in the UK.
If I were to take a UK car to France , then as a citizen of Europe I would not be allowed to drive it in the EU.
Might be Ok for me to get round the regulations as post brexit citizen of the UK, but what about all the thousands of French who currently live in London if they choose to remain and drive a UK regostered car ?
If I were to take a UK car to France , then as a citizen of Europe I would not be allowed to drive it in the EU.
Might be Ok for me to get round the regulations as post brexit citizen of the UK, but what about all the thousands of French who currently live in London if they choose to remain and drive a UK regostered car ?
Firstly, wouldn't get a French passport unless you live in France. Residency is a requirement.
So, if you live in France you are not allowed to drive a UK registered car here; but that is because you are a resident of France, and your car has to be registered in the country where you're resident. It has nothing to do with what passports you have or don't have.
If you live in the UK then your car must be registered in the UK because that's the country where you are resident. Again, regardless of what passports you have or don't have.
Conversely, if you don't live in France then you can't register your car there, again regardless of what passports you hold or don't hold. Your car has to be registered in the country of which you are a permanent resident.
Or have I missed the point?
#93
Re: UK votes to leave
The EU Directive on Cross Border Vehicle Taxation is seen as too complex and difficult to enforce so has not been incorporated into most national legislations and is not enforced in any.
The main effect of Brexit will be the inability of the 'holier than thou' brigade to preach their version of how to be as good a citizen as they are on expat forums (AI)
The main effect of Brexit will be the inability of the 'holier than thou' brigade to preach their version of how to be as good a citizen as they are on expat forums (AI)
#94
Re: UK votes to leave
You're tying my brain in knots. Why do you think that?
Firstly, wouldn't get a French passport unless you live in France. Residency is a requirement.
So, if you live in France you are not allowed to drive a UK registered car here; but that is because you are a resident of France, and your car has to be registered in the country where you're resident. It has nothing to do with what passports you have or don't have.
If you live in the UK then your car must be registered in the UK because that's the country where you are resident. Again, regardless of what passports you have or don't have.
Conversely, if you don't live in France then you can't register your car there, again regardless of what passports you hold or don't hold. Your car has to be registered in the country of which you are a permanent resident.
Or have I missed the point?
Firstly, wouldn't get a French passport unless you live in France. Residency is a requirement.
So, if you live in France you are not allowed to drive a UK registered car here; but that is because you are a resident of France, and your car has to be registered in the country where you're resident. It has nothing to do with what passports you have or don't have.
If you live in the UK then your car must be registered in the UK because that's the country where you are resident. Again, regardless of what passports you have or don't have.
Conversely, if you don't live in France then you can't register your car there, again regardless of what passports you hold or don't hold. Your car has to be registered in the country of which you are a permanent resident.
Or have I missed the point?
If you have an address in two countries then you can register a car in each.
I have a UK registered car and a French registered car.
#97
Re: UK votes to leave
You're tying my brain in knots. Why do you think that?
Firstly, wouldn't get a French passport unless you live in France. Residency is a requirement.
So, if you live in France you are not allowed to drive a UK registered car here; but that is because you are a resident of France, and your car has to be registered in the country where you're resident. It has nothing to do with what passports you have or don't have.
If you live in the UK then your car must be registered in the UK because that's the country where you are resident. Again, regardless of what passports you have or don't have.
Conversely, if you don't live in France then you can't register your car there, again regardless of what passports you hold or don't hold. Your car has to be registered in the country of which you are a permanent resident.
Or have I missed the point?
Firstly, wouldn't get a French passport unless you live in France. Residency is a requirement.
So, if you live in France you are not allowed to drive a UK registered car here; but that is because you are a resident of France, and your car has to be registered in the country where you're resident. It has nothing to do with what passports you have or don't have.
If you live in the UK then your car must be registered in the UK because that's the country where you are resident. Again, regardless of what passports you have or don't have.
Conversely, if you don't live in France then you can't register your car there, again regardless of what passports you hold or don't hold. Your car has to be registered in the country of which you are a permanent resident.
Or have I missed the point?
Agreed I didn't understand the post either....
Jon
#98
Re: UK votes to leave
However, have a look around the UK and see how many Polish registered cars are driving around and they certainly are not all tourists (and do they have insurance?).
#100
Re: UK votes to leave
But if they aren't on the database????
ANPR doesn't explain the numbers of Polish registered cars.
Also consider this article:
https://www.petrolprices.com/are-dri...ad-tax-system/
It states that revenue has dropped by £100m since they changed from the paper road fund disc to the computerised system.
That's progress.
ANPR doesn't explain the numbers of Polish registered cars.
Also consider this article:
https://www.petrolprices.com/are-dri...ad-tax-system/
It states that revenue has dropped by £100m since they changed from the paper road fund disc to the computerised system.
That's progress.
#101
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Location: North Kessock, Ross-shire Scotland and Treignac France
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Re: UK votes to leave
The EU Directive on Cross Border Vehicle Taxation is seen as too complex and difficult to enforce so has not been incorporated into most national legislations and is not enforced in any.
The main effect of Brexit will be the inability of the 'holier than thou' brigade to preach their version of how to be as good a citizen as they are on expat forums (AI)
The main effect of Brexit will be the inability of the 'holier than thou' brigade to preach their version of how to be as good a citizen as they are on expat forums (AI)
I have read that Geneva Airport now has German registered cars to get round this directive.
#102
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Re: UK votes to leave
You're tying my brain in knots. Why do you think that?
Firstly, wouldn't get a French passport unless you live in France. Residency is a requirement.
So, if you live in France you are not allowed to drive a UK registered car here; but that is because you are a resident of France, and your car has to be registered in the country where you're resident. It has nothing to do with what passports you have or don't have.
If you live in the UK then your car must be registered in the UK because that's the country where you are resident. Again, regardless of what passports you have or don't have.
Conversely, if you don't live in France then you can't register your car there, again regardless of what passports you hold or don't hold. Your car has to be registered in the country of which you are a permanent resident.
Or have I missed the point?
Firstly, wouldn't get a French passport unless you live in France. Residency is a requirement.
So, if you live in France you are not allowed to drive a UK registered car here; but that is because you are a resident of France, and your car has to be registered in the country where you're resident. It has nothing to do with what passports you have or don't have.
If you live in the UK then your car must be registered in the UK because that's the country where you are resident. Again, regardless of what passports you have or don't have.
Conversely, if you don't live in France then you can't register your car there, again regardless of what passports you hold or don't hold. Your car has to be registered in the country of which you are a permanent resident.
Or have I missed the point?
Not all EU countries require residence to become a national.
Ireland certainly doesn't and nor does Germany provided certain criteria are met.
Reading about the rush for Irish passports from Brits I wondered what the advantages were of haing nationality of an EU country for people whoregularly travel or stayto /in France.
#103
Re: UK votes to leave
But if they aren't on the database????
ANPR doesn't explain the numbers of Polish registered cars.
Also consider this article:
https://www.petrolprices.com/are-dri...ad-tax-system/
It states that revenue has dropped by £100m since they changed from the paper road fund disc to the computerised system.
That's progress.
ANPR doesn't explain the numbers of Polish registered cars.
Also consider this article:
https://www.petrolprices.com/are-dri...ad-tax-system/
It states that revenue has dropped by £100m since they changed from the paper road fund disc to the computerised system.
That's progress.
#104
Re: UK votes to leave
In my case I wouldn't be applying for a French Passport.
Not all EU countries require residence to become a national.
Ireland certainly doesn't and nor does Germany provided certain criteria are met.
Reading about the rush for Irish passports from Brits I wondered what the advantages were of haing nationality of an EU country for people whoregularly travel or stayto /in France.
Not all EU countries require residence to become a national.
Ireland certainly doesn't and nor does Germany provided certain criteria are met.
Reading about the rush for Irish passports from Brits I wondered what the advantages were of haing nationality of an EU country for people whoregularly travel or stayto /in France.
#105
Re: UK votes to leave
Some years ago, I had a conversation with a senior traffic cop who had concerns that the system could be used as you suggest.
We would need to record all registrations at the port of entry as happens as you enter and leave car parks.
We still do not even record people in and out of the country although with the introduction of automatic passport booths that may also change.