bobbi2

Has anyone used a good charpentier for roof replacements in the Haute Vienne please? Has anyone in general had their roof replaced and know how much they spent on average, maybe per metre? May need some gable end work done too at one end as well as the timbers as they are a little warped in places. Think it is 400m2 for the roof area.
Also, are permis or declarations necessary for work on a roof? I know some things require declarations some things don't.

dmu

Hi, that's one big roof area!
Can't help with a charpentier, but the following link gives info on when you need a Permis or if a Déclaration préalable is sufficient.
https://www.service-public.fr/partic...sdroits/F31473
Best to ask at the Mairie when you've got a carpenter's Devis.
If this is to do with the property mentioned in other threads, you should negotiate a reduction in price, because such a surface area to be replaced will cost some.

bobbi2

Just made a faux pas on the size...it is actually 200m2 not 400. I was taking a gite into account to.
Absolutely, We have bought and sold many houses and negotiated many times! Thanks for the link.

cardi

Making any application will result in an increase, often substantial, in your local taxes after the H1 form.
If you are just repairing and replacing with the same then you are not making changes. If you are putting in skylights or similar then that will require a declaration.
I did my own 100m2 roof using eternit sheets with the original canal tiles on top and several additional timbers. No declaration. Cost me about 1100 euros in total.
Neighbour with roof of similar size brought in a team and it cost him over 6000 euros.
How long is a piece of string?

bobbi2

It would be a like for like change, just renovating an old roof, no velux etc but would be interlinking tiles and new hollow timbers too. I presume the H1 is the form used after completing work which follows on from a declaration or permis? Sorry to be so vague but not my area I'm afraid. Sounds like ours is on a much bigger scale. Is new roofing tax deductable as would be new windows or boilers etc??

cardi

If you are using different tiles this is a change and requires a declaration.
A new roof will stick out. The simple declaration is no longer simple and seems to require as much paperwork as a full application.


Les travaux d'entretien ou de réparation qui ne modifient pas l'aspect extérieur de votre maison ne sont, en principe, soumis � aucune déclaration. Cela peut être notamment le cas pour :

• la remise en l'état ou la réparation d'une toiture,

• le remplacement des portes et fenêtres,

• le remplacement d'une gouttière,

• la réparation d'une cheminée.

Les travaux et réparations ayant pour conséquence de modifier l'aspect extérieur de votre maison sont soumis, selon leur ampleur et leurs caractéristiques, � déclaration préalable ou demande de permis de construire. C'est également le cas pour les travaux d'agrandissement et les constructions nouvelles


There are grants and tax incentives available for roofing if it incorporates insulation or other energy efficient systems.
https://www.service-public.fr/partic...sdroits/F19905


Like UK however with these aides your cost even deducting the subsidies will be often much more than if you had just done it yourself without the subsidy. It is as much about creating work as it is about energy efficiency.

bobbi2

[QUOTE=cardi;12193511]If you are using different tiles this is a change and requires a declaration.
A new roof will stick out. The simple declaration is no longer simple and seems to require as much paperwork as a full application.


Les travaux d'entretien ou de réparation qui ne modifient pas l'aspect extérieur de votre maison ne sont, en principe, soumis � aucune déclaration. Cela peut être notamment le cas pour :

• la remise en l'état ou la réparation d'une toiture,

• le remplacement des portes et fenêtres,

• le remplacement d'une gouttière,

• la réparation d'une cheminée.

Les travaux et réparations ayant pour conséquence de modifier l'aspect extérieur de votre maison sont soumis, selon leur ampleur et leurs caractéristiques, � déclaration préalable ou demande de permis de construire. C'est également le cas pour les travaux d'agrandissement et les constructions nouvelles


There are grants and tax incentives available for roofing if it incorporates insulation or other energy efficient systems.
https://www.service-public.fr/partic...sdroits/F19905


Like UK however with these aides your cost even deducting the subsidies will be often much more than if you had just done it yourself without the subsidy. It is as much about creating work as it is about energy efficiency.[/QUOTE

Very useful thanks Cardi. The charpentes we are speaking to have only been able to give rough quotes from outside as the owners are away until Monday. There is a suspected offer on Monday and are in a tough situation on what we do. The roof will without doubt need replacing and we have put an low offer in and awaiitng for devis next week when they are back but may be too late!
There must be others on here who have had a new roof project? We are wokring worst case as there is no isolation or guttering either. They are making good the gaps in the roof and ridge tiles and clearly isn't leaking atm but will need replacing in our time there.

InVinoVeritas

For a complete roof, trusses, roof boards and tiles you should use a budget of €150 per sq metre (measured on the horizontal plane) inclusive of labour. Less if you do some of the work yourself and more if the roof is complex.