Carte Sejour
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Carte Sejour
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British guy married to French and living in France.
A long time ago I went to the town hall to ask about 'Carte Sejour' - I was told they didn't do them any more and as a UK passport holder and European - I did not need one.
As I now have property in France and with current changes like Brexit coming around - I'm starting to think I actually should have some kind of residence papers ?
What do long term Brits living in France actually have to prove they are resident in France ?
Maybe it will become compulsory again after Brexit ?
Regards
British guy married to French and living in France.
A long time ago I went to the town hall to ask about 'Carte Sejour' - I was told they didn't do them any more and as a UK passport holder and European - I did not need one.
As I now have property in France and with current changes like Brexit coming around - I'm starting to think I actually should have some kind of residence papers ?
What do long term Brits living in France actually have to prove they are resident in France ?
Maybe it will become compulsory again after Brexit ?
Regards
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Re: Carte Sejour
In theory as a British citizen you're entitled to a Carte de Séjour if you ask for one - but as they said, since you don't need one they really don't want to bother issuing them.
Basically the most conclusive proof is your tax returns. If you can show 5 years tax returns, that should prove you've been living here for 5 years.
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You are right, the Mairie are not really interested. If you want one though, I was told it's the Prefecture who now issue them. They too may say you don't need one, but if you insist they shouldn't really refuse.
I was told this by the Mairie here, and plan to trot along to the Prefecture within the next month or so.
I was told this by the Mairie here, and plan to trot along to the Prefecture within the next month or so.
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Re: Carte Sejour
In theory as a British citizen you're entitled to a Carte de Séjour if you ask for one - but as they said, since you don't need one they really don't want to bother issuing them.
Basically the most conclusive proof is your tax returns. If you can show 5 years tax returns, that should prove you've been living here for 5 years.
Basically the most conclusive proof is your tax returns. If you can show 5 years tax returns, that should prove you've been living here for 5 years.
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Re: Carte Sejour
You are right, the Mairie are not really interested. If you want one though, I was told it's the Prefecture who now issue them. They too may say you don't need one, but if you insist they shouldn't really refuse.
I was told this by the Mairie here, and plan to trot along to the Prefecture within the next month or so.
I was told this by the Mairie here, and plan to trot along to the Prefecture within the next month or so.
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Re: Carte Sejour
Are you sure?
AFAIK there is no difference whichever way round it is. But either way round there are conditions to be met - French nationality doesn't come automatically with marrying a French national, there has to have been a minimum period of conjugal residence in France etc.
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Re: Carte Sejour
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Are you sure?
AFAIK there is no difference whichever way round it is. But either way round there are conditions to be met - French nationality doesn't come automatically with marrying a French national, there has to have been a minimum period of conjugal residence in France etc.
Are you sure?
AFAIK there is no difference whichever way round it is. But either way round there are conditions to be met - French nationality doesn't come automatically with marrying a French national, there has to have been a minimum period of conjugal residence in France etc.
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The only thing I've acquired by dint of being married to a French woman is a superiority complex..........
#9
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I know of 2 Englishmen married to French women that have acquired french nationality. Mind you, they've been in France a long time so would have been able to do it just because they satisfied residency requirements. It could be that because of the EU, you don't NEED to be french to stay/work in France and so the residency rules are the applicable ones. My daughter born in France to British parents can't get French nationality until she satisfies residency requirements ( she'll have to go back for 5 years).
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I know of 2 Englishmen married to French women that have acquired french nationality. Mind you, they've been in France a long time so would have been able to do it just because they satisfied residency requirements. It could be that because of the EU, you don't NEED to be french to stay/work in France and so the residency rules are the applicable ones. My daughter born in France to British parents can't get French nationality until she satisfies residency requirements ( she'll have to go back for 5 years).
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I know two UK men (one Scottish and one n. Ireland) who are married to french women and have never been long-term residents in France and both have french citizenship.
Therefore, IVV could be spot on but I cannot confirm it.
Therefore, IVV could be spot on but I cannot confirm it.
#12
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Droit des étrangers : L'acquisition de la nationalité française - THOMAS LONCLE AVOCAT
There's probably a statut somewhere on the Googlenet but hopefully this will suffice.
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Re: Carte Sejour
My above post should be considered as deleted!
I was going back to last century when I acquired French nationality (via a Tribunal) one year after marrying my French OH. I didn't have to prove any knowledge of French. At the time, foreign husbands of French ladies couldn't acquire nationality on the basis of marriage....
Sorry for any confusion caused by living in the past!
I was going back to last century when I acquired French nationality (via a Tribunal) one year after marrying my French OH. I didn't have to prove any knowledge of French. At the time, foreign husbands of French ladies couldn't acquire nationality on the basis of marriage....
Sorry for any confusion caused by living in the past!
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Re: Carte Sejour
Thanks everyone.
Really interesting - I will make an application based on my marriage & time in France.
Mind you, they telling me its a minimum 3 month to get an appointment at the Prefecture...!
Really interesting - I will make an application based on my marriage & time in France.
Mind you, they telling me its a minimum 3 month to get an appointment at the Prefecture...!