Advice on Moving to France post Brexit
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Advice on Moving to France post Brexit
Hi,
I have dual nationalities - American and British, and have lived in the USA for over 20 years.
I would like to explore moving to France in a couple of years. I would by then most likely be retired (I am a registered nurse) but might open a B&B, while I play as an artist.
We are thinking of the South of France somewhere ( I do speak French)
What is the situation with Brexit - will people still be able to move to the Continent - especially France ?
My husband is American. How would that affect him? Would being married to me make any difference?
Can someone provide me with resources on buying a house in France?
Thanks so much
I have dual nationalities - American and British, and have lived in the USA for over 20 years.
I would like to explore moving to France in a couple of years. I would by then most likely be retired (I am a registered nurse) but might open a B&B, while I play as an artist.
We are thinking of the South of France somewhere ( I do speak French)
What is the situation with Brexit - will people still be able to move to the Continent - especially France ?
My husband is American. How would that affect him? Would being married to me make any difference?
Can someone provide me with resources on buying a house in France?
Thanks so much
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Re: Advice on Moving to France post Brexit
Welcome to the forum.
Unfortunately unless someone on here has a very good crystal ball, all we can do is guess what the position with regard to freedom of movement for Brits will be post Brexit. Theresa May herself doesn't seem to know whether she wants it or not. And even if she does decide she wants it, she might not want to pay whatever price is asked.
Personally, in your shoes I would either wait until things become a bit clearer, or plan on the basis that your UK passport will count for nothing. Then if in fact it is some use, it'll be a bonus.
Unfortunately unless someone on here has a very good crystal ball, all we can do is guess what the position with regard to freedom of movement for Brits will be post Brexit. Theresa May herself doesn't seem to know whether she wants it or not. And even if she does decide she wants it, she might not want to pay whatever price is asked.
Personally, in your shoes I would either wait until things become a bit clearer, or plan on the basis that your UK passport will count for nothing. Then if in fact it is some use, it'll be a bonus.
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Re: Advice on Moving to France post Brexit
Thanks so much.......... Moving to Europe as a retired person - not a burden on the economy might make a difference ? Oui/non? whether American or British? I know... what a clusterbumble this whole thing has turned out to be without much foresight...... :-)
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Re: Advice on Moving to France post Brexit
I suggest your first stop should be the French consulate in your state (I imagine they have a website), to find out about applying for visas as retirees - what visa would you apply for, what are the income requirements, would you be allowed to run a B&B and perform, and anything else you need to know. Then you'll know your fallback position if Brits come out of Brexit with no rights in Europe over and above the rights of other non-EU citizens.
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You will certainly be able to move to France after Brexit. The question is, how easy will it be? That's not something that anyone can tell you at the moment. At the moment both you and your husband can move anywhere in the EU/EEA under freedom of movement rules so moving to France before April 2019 would be a good idea as any deal is likely to feature grandfathered rights for existing residents.
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You will certainly be able to move to France after Brexit. The question is, how easy will it be? That's not something that anyone can tell you at the moment. At the moment both you and your husband can move anywhere in the EU/EEA under freedom of movement rules so moving to France before April 2019 would be a good idea as any deal is likely to feature grandfathered rights for existing residents.
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I knew a USC from California who moved to France when he retired.
He had a Carte de Sejour (residence) and a Carte Vitale (healthcare card) and I think that his Californian drivers license was accepted in France where licenses from some other States are not.
As suggested above, I would try the USC route first with the UK route as fallback.
Being married or being PACSd is a big advantage in France because non-married partners have less rights than married partners especially for inheritance tax etc
I also know another American couple who rent an apartment in France for 12 months but only live there for just under 6 months to avoid being considered tax resident in France.
If you become resident in France then you would have to complete a French tax return each year in addition to your US tax returns.
HTH
He had a Carte de Sejour (residence) and a Carte Vitale (healthcare card) and I think that his Californian drivers license was accepted in France where licenses from some other States are not.
As suggested above, I would try the USC route first with the UK route as fallback.
Being married or being PACSd is a big advantage in France because non-married partners have less rights than married partners especially for inheritance tax etc
I also know another American couple who rent an apartment in France for 12 months but only live there for just under 6 months to avoid being considered tax resident in France.
If you become resident in France then you would have to complete a French tax return each year in addition to your US tax returns.
HTH
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Re: Advice on Moving to France post Brexit
My advice to anyone considering a move to another country in retirement always starts the same way. NEVER buy anything until you have lived there for at least 1 and preferably 2 years. It's easy to buy, not so easy to sell if things don't work out as expected.
As for Brexit, why even consider the unknown affect that would have. Deal with what is a known, moving to France as an American retiree. That you can get specific answers to today that will get you there for SURE if you qualify.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=ameri...hrome&ie=UTF-8
As for Brexit, why even consider the unknown affect that would have. Deal with what is a known, moving to France as an American retiree. That you can get specific answers to today that will get you there for SURE if you qualify.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=ameri...hrome&ie=UTF-8
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Re: Advice on Moving to France post Brexit
Rent, do not buy and keep your options open. if your French is rusty, get to work on it !
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Re: Advice on Moving to France post Brexit
At present, moving to Europe as a retired American is more involved than moving to Europe as a retired Brit, simply because as a non-EU citizen you need to get a visa and a carte de séjour etc. If Britain exits the EEA as well as the EU, and if no special agreement is made, logically UK passport holders will also need visas and carte de séjours. That's why I think you have to prepare yourself to jump through the hoops, because there's no guarantee a UK passport will give you any privileges in Europe after Brexit. If in the event it does, so much the better. But what you don't want to do is buy a house and then find you can't live in it beyond a few months a year!
I suggest your first stop should be the French consulate in your state (I imagine they have a website), to find out about applying for visas as retirees - what visa would you apply for, what are the income requirements, would you be allowed to run a B&B and perform, and anything else you need to know. Then you'll know your fallback position if Brits come out of Brexit with no rights in Europe over and above the rights of other non-EU citizens.
I suggest your first stop should be the French consulate in your state (I imagine they have a website), to find out about applying for visas as retirees - what visa would you apply for, what are the income requirements, would you be allowed to run a B&B and perform, and anything else you need to know. Then you'll know your fallback position if Brits come out of Brexit with no rights in Europe over and above the rights of other non-EU citizens.
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Would you be moving before or after Brexit? No-one has the crystal ball to tell you what could be, only what the current rules are for EU citizens (and their spouses) and non-EU citizens.
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Re: Advice on Moving to France post Brexit
HI - Thanks for you quick response. I plan to move next year as soon as I sell my house in California. I plan to pay cash for a house, My funds will be coming from the states. I know Brexit is still up in the air and very iffy - no-one really knows. I think there is an understanding for people already living there - but for new comers as Brits I don't know. I know a few Americans who live there now and I am not sure how they went about it. I will not be a burden to the government but will work at my BNB and art business - and hopefully bring more tourists in to France. But for the time being I am an EU citizen as well. Trying to make the move next Spring.
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