Climate change sceptics
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Is the world getting warmer.. probably.
Are 'we' to blame... debatable, but probably.
Can we do anything about it... probably.
Will we do anything about it... not a bloody hope.
I think we would be much better planning for its effects than trying to prevent them because I would be amazed if we, as a planet, can stop what is already in process.... especially with the economic growth of the BRIC nations.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't at least attempt to limit CO2 emissions, just that I think the process of warming is already underway and won't be stopped by any actions we take now.
Nothing has changed my opionion so far.
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In one of the countless other climate/global warming threads I posted this...
Is the world getting warmer.. probably.
Are 'we' to blame... debatable, but probably.
Can we do anything about it... probably.
Will we do anything about it... not a bloody hope.
I think we would be much better planning for its effects than trying to prevent them because I would be amazed if we, as a planet, can stop what is already in process.... especially with the economic growth of the BRIC nations.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't at least attempt to limit CO2 emissions, just that I think the process of warming is already underway and won't be stopped by any actions we take now.
Nothing has changed my opionion so far.
Is the world getting warmer.. probably.
Are 'we' to blame... debatable, but probably.
Can we do anything about it... probably.
Will we do anything about it... not a bloody hope.
I think we would be much better planning for its effects than trying to prevent them because I would be amazed if we, as a planet, can stop what is already in process.... especially with the economic growth of the BRIC nations.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't at least attempt to limit CO2 emissions, just that I think the process of warming is already underway and won't be stopped by any actions we take now.
Nothing has changed my opionion so far.
To halt the process of global warming will take a complete shift in our society's ideals and ways of living. I don't think everyday people want to do this and that's why the climate change sceptic voice has got so strong. The easy option is to do nothing and hope it will go away. We can then live life as we always have done.
Of course some politicians/big businesses have seized the moment to jump on the sceptic bandwagon as they see cutting emissions as harming existing ways of doing business.
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They are wasting their time and they know they are wasting their time. The only problem is that these days unless you prefix your grant application with "To study the effects of global warming on........." you won't get a grant and you'll be unemployed of teaching undergraduates (god forbid that).
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Question is: what is a "Climate change sceptic" ? Someone who is sceptical about the cause of the changes ?
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Can anyone prove it either way? I've yet to see any strong or consistent arguments either way. As evidenced by this thread.
I get the impression that floods and fires have been happening for a long time and they even predate industrialisation.
I also question that scientists have been studying climatology for thousands of years as science (as we now know it) hasn't been around for 1000s of years. I'll give you 750 at most.
I get the impression that floods and fires have been happening for a long time and they even predate industrialisation.
I also question that scientists have been studying climatology for thousands of years as science (as we now know it) hasn't been around for 1000s of years. I'll give you 750 at most.
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I could find more references to ancient writings about climatology, but I would have to dig out my old text books.
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History is obviously not your subject. Ancient Egyptians and Babylonians wrote about meteorological and climatological events. The ancient Greeks also wrote about colder and wetter periods in Europe (in the first millennium) than now.
I could find more references to ancient writings about climatology, but I would have to dig out my old text books.
I could find more references to ancient writings about climatology, but I would have to dig out my old text books.
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History is obviously not your subject. Ancient Egyptians and Babylonians wrote about meteorological and climatological events. The ancient Greeks also wrote about colder and wetter periods in Europe (in the first millennium) than now.
I could find more references to ancient writings about climatology, but I would have to dig out my old text books.
I could find more references to ancient writings about climatology, but I would have to dig out my old text books.
Last edited by MartinLuther; Jan 12th 2011 at 8:43 am.
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Wrong. Lots of ancient Greeks were scientists.
Last edited by CasualObserver1; Jan 12th 2011 at 7:59 pm.
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Wrong again. Below are just a few ancient Greeks who study science.
Archimedes - mathematician, physicist, engineer, inventor, and astronomer
Aristarchus - astronomer and mathematician
Eratosthenes - mathematician, geographer and astronomer.
Eudoxus - astronomer, mathematician, scholar and student of Plato
Heraclides - astronomer who proposed that the earth rotates on its axis once a day and who may have believed that the sun was the centre of the solar system.
Herophilus - physician.
Hipparchus - astrologer, astronomer, geographer, and mathematician
Hippocrates - father of medicine.
Pythagoras - mathematician.
Archimedes - mathematician, physicist, engineer, inventor, and astronomer
Aristarchus - astronomer and mathematician
Eratosthenes - mathematician, geographer and astronomer.
Eudoxus - astronomer, mathematician, scholar and student of Plato
Heraclides - astronomer who proposed that the earth rotates on its axis once a day and who may have believed that the sun was the centre of the solar system.
Herophilus - physician.
Hipparchus - astrologer, astronomer, geographer, and mathematician
Hippocrates - father of medicine.
Pythagoras - mathematician.
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Re: Climate change sceptics
What do bush fires and flooding have to do with climate change?