Want to move but cannot afford to move back any suggestions?
Jan 30th 2013, 2:43 am
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Re: Want to move but cannot afford to move back any suggestions?
Once again we are in harmony Zen10.... The law is clearly designed to do just one thing and that's (in the words of the government) to take immigration from 100,000's down to 10,000's.
They cannot give a **** how they do it or who it affects. I can only hope labour comes back to power in 2015 and abolish this foul law.
Oh and the reason no one has challenged it, is because those who would are still in system for immigration and probably don't want UKBA messing up their chances, probably why they lengthened the Permanent leave to remain to 5 years.
It all becomes really obvious once you think about it.
They cannot give a **** how they do it or who it affects. I can only hope labour comes back to power in 2015 and abolish this foul law.
Oh and the reason no one has challenged it, is because those who would are still in system for immigration and probably don't want UKBA messing up their chances, probably why they lengthened the Permanent leave to remain to 5 years.
It all becomes really obvious once you think about it.
Jan 30th 2013, 8:05 am
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Re: Want to move but cannot afford to move back any suggestions?
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Jan 30th 2013, 8:15 am
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Dreadful law introduced by people who thought they were restricting migration into UK. Looney tunes stuff with truly tragic effects for many.
Jan 30th 2013, 8:21 am
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Agreed. Young people like Mandi (I'm assuming you're young, Mandi!), oldies like me, and so many in between. God help us all, because Cameron certainly won't.
Jan 30th 2013, 8:43 am
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Re: Want to move but cannot afford to move back any suggestions?
Hello fellow expats here is the deal my husband (American) and I were all set to move back to Scotland where I am from. Only after ready the new change in the law of me now needing 18,600 pounds in savings or a job we cannot afford it. I am deeply homesick and have never really settled in here and we finally had made the decision to go back only to run into this. I have read that some other people have gotten loans for the visa application im not sure how viable that is or if you are even allowed to do it?? I only work part time my husband is the full time earner in our house. I just wondered if there are other people in the same boat and if there are any other ways of doing this apart from me having to go home first and getting a job before he can apply for his visa. Tanks for any info you can give me
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Jan 30th 2013, 11:28 am
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Re: Want to move but cannot afford to move back any suggestions?
You cannot get a loan for this, when you apply you have to show where the money came from via your bank statements, i'm sure there are ways around this like having the money go into a friends account then into yours, but then you need to hold onto it for 6 maybe 12 months, cant remember the time and you need to have the same amount of money in 2.5 years as well, unless you in that time have a job equal or above 18600.
To be honest, considering (assuming here) you have no kids, if i was you, i'd just go back get a job (i think 18600 is pretty attainable, hope i'm not wrong), stay for 6 months. Then apply for your husband to come over.
To be honest, considering (assuming here) you have no kids, if i was you, i'd just go back get a job (i think 18600 is pretty attainable, hope i'm not wrong), stay for 6 months. Then apply for your husband to come over.
Jan 30th 2013, 3:09 pm
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Re: Want to move but cannot afford to move back any suggestions?
It is a dreadful law which doesn't do what the government want. It does not restrict immigration from the EU, which is were most immigrants come from.
Jan 30th 2013, 3:55 pm
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Re: Want to move but cannot afford to move back any suggestions?
Another poorly thought out 'Friday afternoon' law. Probably first conceptualized by some spotty faced intern to a Minister who said "oh thats a good idea!"
Doesn't really matter whichever political party thought this one up. I sometimes question what the real motivation is. I have to believe that this law was not the result of complete incompetence (I really hope things are not that bad). So what is the real motivation?
After all, the UK has historically prided itself on being a seafaring nation that went out and visited (I'm being very diplomatic here or obfuscating) other lands. The benefits of one's citizens cross mingling with other nations is a long recognized positive concept and one that the US , China etc actively encourage today.
This kind of rule discourages that but does not address the problem of immigration into the UK? Once again IMHO it just seems to be the politics of envy - those sad little individuals who never actually had the gumption to leave UK's shores (not that there is anything wrong with that). But time and time again I run into this stereotype who seem to think that those who have left the UK for a period of time should be in some way penalized for doing so! This attitude beggars belief but I keep experiencing it and I keep seeing a 'bright line' of laws that encourage it in the UK. Is it that expats are an easy target?
Frankly, I see a legal challenge in this laws future along the lines of denial of Freedom of Movement..I know that does not help the OP or others in this predicament. But a move to another country in Europe just might help with such a legal challenge.
Doesn't really matter whichever political party thought this one up. I sometimes question what the real motivation is. I have to believe that this law was not the result of complete incompetence (I really hope things are not that bad). So what is the real motivation?
After all, the UK has historically prided itself on being a seafaring nation that went out and visited (I'm being very diplomatic here or obfuscating) other lands. The benefits of one's citizens cross mingling with other nations is a long recognized positive concept and one that the US , China etc actively encourage today.
This kind of rule discourages that but does not address the problem of immigration into the UK? Once again IMHO it just seems to be the politics of envy - those sad little individuals who never actually had the gumption to leave UK's shores (not that there is anything wrong with that). But time and time again I run into this stereotype who seem to think that those who have left the UK for a period of time should be in some way penalized for doing so! This attitude beggars belief but I keep experiencing it and I keep seeing a 'bright line' of laws that encourage it in the UK. Is it that expats are an easy target?
Frankly, I see a legal challenge in this laws future along the lines of denial of Freedom of Movement..I know that does not help the OP or others in this predicament. But a move to another country in Europe just might help with such a legal challenge.
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Jan 30th 2013, 3:57 pm
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Re: Want to move but cannot afford to move back any suggestions?
Another poorly thought out 'Friday afternoon' law. Probably first conceptualized by some spotty faced intern to a Minister who said "oh thats a good idea!"
Doesn't really matter whichever political party thought this one up. I sometimes question what the real motivation is. I have to believe that this law was not the result of complete incompetence (I really hope things are not that bad). So what is the real motivation?
After all, the UK has historically prided itself on being a seafaring nation that went out and visited (I'm being very diplomatic here or obfuscating) other lands. This kind of rule discourages that but does not address the problem of immigration into the UK? Once again IMHO it just seems to be the politics of envy - those sad little individuals who never actually had the gumption to leave UK's shores (not that there is anything wrong with that). But time and time again I run into this stereotype who seem to think that those have left the UK for a period of time should be in some way penalized for doing so! This attitude beggars belief but I keep experiencing it and I keep seeing a 'bright line' of laws that encourage it in the UK. Is it that expats are an easy target?
Doesn't really matter whichever political party thought this one up. I sometimes question what the real motivation is. I have to believe that this law was not the result of complete incompetence (I really hope things are not that bad). So what is the real motivation?
After all, the UK has historically prided itself on being a seafaring nation that went out and visited (I'm being very diplomatic here or obfuscating) other lands. This kind of rule discourages that but does not address the problem of immigration into the UK? Once again IMHO it just seems to be the politics of envy - those sad little individuals who never actually had the gumption to leave UK's shores (not that there is anything wrong with that). But time and time again I run into this stereotype who seem to think that those have left the UK for a period of time should be in some way penalized for doing so! This attitude beggars belief but I keep experiencing it and I keep seeing a 'bright line' of laws that encourage it in the UK. Is it that expats are an easy target?
Jan 30th 2013, 4:20 pm
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Re: Want to move but cannot afford to move back any suggestions?
The more I look at this the more I see a bright future for UK immigration lawyers challenging this one through the European courts. But that does not help the OP or others like them.
BTW I don't have a foreign born spouse (anymore
) but I still find it objectionable that expats seem to be targeted or fall into the cracks once again.
Jan 30th 2013, 4:24 pm
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I agree but the apparent utter incompetence of how the law was thought out means that it has had the unintended or intended effect, depending on your viewpoint of disadvantaging British citizens worldwide who have foreign born spouses. This may well have been considered when drafting the law, if so the incompetence or deliberate disregard for British citizens, where ever they may originally hail from is scandalous.
The more I look at this the more I see a bright future for UK immigration lawyers challenging this one through the European courts. But that does not help the OP or others like them.
BTW I don't have a foreign born spouse (anymore) but I still find it objectionable that expats seem to be targeted or fall into the cracks once again.
The more I look at this the more I see a bright future for UK immigration lawyers challenging this one through the European courts. But that does not help the OP or others like them.
BTW I don't have a foreign born spouse (anymore
) but I still find it objectionable that expats seem to be targeted or fall into the cracks once again.