spouse of scouse

I like what you wrote about remembering there is a real person behind posts such as the OP's, rebeccajo.

rebeccajo

Gozit, that's not correct - at least as regards the US. There IS a financial requirement for spousal/fiancé visas. It is set at a far more reasonable amount than similar visas for the UK, and third party sponsorship is allowed too. But it's still required.

formula

They aren't taking her away from her child. You are all living together in your wife's country. The mother is with her child.

If you want to bring your child to the UK, then why not leave the child with his mother while you look for work, instead of splitting them up?

alfista1

The child needs the father also!!
Every healthy family is a combination of the mother and father. My son is very attached to me and can't imagine how he's going to feel to be months and months apart from me. I just don't understand how people think its ok for a young child for them to be apart from their father but not mother.
This is a violation of his rights!

Vadio

If you feel that strongly, why don't you sell the apartment in Uruguay and use the savings route? You are lucky to have options. Had you proceeded, this entire debate may well have been moot.

rebeccajo

Ooooooooooooooooooooooo ma gerddddddd!!!! lolol

It's starting to look like everybody needs sprayed down with the garden hose!

Families do have rights. But they are limited and qualified. If you chose to rant about your rights, and threaten to push the limits of the law, well you aren't going to win fence sitters over to your side. And you aren't being incredibly smart either. These "other" immigration paths aren't pretty ones to walk down. A UK citizen can find their non-EU spouse present with them in the UK, but the government might put them on a 10 year path to residency. Which makes their integration to the UK even more difficult. Is that something you want for your loved one?

Getting pi$$ed off about these rules isn't productive either. You'll be able to formulate the best plan for your family once you stop railing against the machine. You might be surprised what kind of clarity is out there once you get a grip on your emotions.

Oh - when you are an immigrant (or are married to one) and you look down on other immigrants - well frankly that makes you look a little dumb. Swings and roundabouts, you know because governments can turn the tables quickly. One immigrants cause is also anothers. Better learn to stick together and realize their 'rights' are one of the best arguments you've got if you feel your rights as a British citizen have been violated.

Likewise, beating up on posters because they are trying to have a normal family life - tsk tsk. Walk a mile in their shoes first. Peoples lives are rarely as clear cut as we think. It's so easy to stand in judgment of people we know in the real world and even that much easier to write off those on the internet.

Everybody needs to play nice, IMO. The situation is hard enough without all the human drama.

civilservant

Been there, done that. Took me 2 years, and I got on with it rather than whining about my rights because I accepted that it's their country and they get to make the rules.

BritInParis

The EU 'rights' thing does go both ways. As a British citizen you can move your family to any other EU/EEA member state with no problems whatsoever regardless of the passport they hold.

Vadio

Likewise when my first visa application was denied and I was ranting on another forum, a then regular contributor (Transpondia) told me that I was no one special and the rules aplied to me like anyone else. He didn't try to spare my feelings...he was blunt and cut to the chase.

At first I was really pi$$ed off, but then I realized he was right. We got on with the 2nd application, and the rest is history.

Now back to the original poster....I empathise with their situation, and I hope they find a way to be where they want to be. Those are the folks who need straight answers and support IMHO.

alfista1

OMG. That is just getting too nosey! For reasons we will not explain.
Options?? I would hardly call the restrictions options.

Yes let's settle down now and all just agree that the restrictions tear families apart and disturbs young children and should be abolished immediately as they contradict Article 8 of the ECHR. No one can argue with that.

SanDiegogirl

Why is it getting too nosey?........ when you were asking a myriad of questions regarding moving to the UK, and loads of people were giving you great information and options as to how you could qualify for the spouse visa you said that you would NOT consider selling the apartment (worth apparently around 80K GBP) because you had lots of family in Uruguay and would only do so when you were confident your wife was happy in the UK.

In the meantime you would rent it out.

So you have the means to get the visa, you just don't want to give up your nest egg in Uruguay and follow the rules.

Now who is being unfair to their family?

JAJ

And, for example, isn't it easier for a British citizen to sponsor a spouse into (for example) Denmark, than it is for a Danish citizen? Which is why many Danes have chosen to sponsor their foreign spouses for residence in Sweden instead. The U.K.'s restrictions on spouse migration are by no means unique in the EEA.

Gozit

Sorry. I stand corrected there. With regards to Canada for sure I know there isn't a financial requirement, not sure about Aus but I don't think so either.

Vexcore

How would it work this route?

My wife holds a Chinese passport, she needs visas for every god damn country.... if i booked a flight to france? live in france? wouldn't she need a visa upon entry? or apply one?

Doesn't matter if im an EU citizen.

How does one enter an EEA country if there not from the EU but they're spouse is an EU citizen? at the end of the day wouldn't the none EU spouse NEED some visa?

Gozit

Seen this and plan on replying later !