Have baby in UK or Australia?
Dec 15th 2006, 2:36 am
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Originally Posted by Mummy
Nope, nobody has mentioned having a blood test prior to the scan and I have no forms relating to a blood test?? Is the purpose of this blood test and nuchal scan purely to look for down syndrome? If it is then to be honest, I'm not sure that I would want it. If I found out that my baby had down syndrome then it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to me, and would that show up on the 20 weeks scan anyway? I guess it would be beneficial to know in advance that the baby had it so that you can prepare, but I wouldn't dream of aborting because of it.
If the risk comes back as high, a amnio test would be offered.
Not everybody has the Nuchal scan done you know and it is usually offered to poeple who are "older mums".
I am amazed that you didn't receieve adequate counselling about the reasons for and against the scan. You seem to have been left to get on with it yourself, that doesn't seem quite right to me. Will you have a chance to see the specialist soon?
Dec 15th 2006, 6:44 am
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Originally Posted by Mummy
Hi,
Haven't posted on here for a while but still been reading.
I am nearly 3 months pregnant, and it was our intention to return to the UK in April. Now I am wondering if it would be better to stay and have the baby here and then go back in September. Now this is the dilemma.
If we go back in April, we have family to support us through the birth (last pregnancy ended in pre-eclampsia and emergency c-section, baby was fine though) and to look after our son during, before and after birth time. Downside of going back then is that hubby may have found a job before baby is due and it means uprooting to wherever that job may be to have the baby, i.e. two moves before birth.
If we go back in September, we have very little support, only a couple of friends who would be willing to help look after our son, probably only during birth time (I was hospitalised for 3 weeks last time). But we would be able to save a little more money (though not much once I have to stop working), and I wouldn't have the stress of moving country to cope with.
Any thoughts much appreciated
Haven't posted on here for a while but still been reading.
I am nearly 3 months pregnant, and it was our intention to return to the UK in April. Now I am wondering if it would be better to stay and have the baby here and then go back in September. Now this is the dilemma.
If we go back in April, we have family to support us through the birth (last pregnancy ended in pre-eclampsia and emergency c-section, baby was fine though) and to look after our son during, before and after birth time. Downside of going back then is that hubby may have found a job before baby is due and it means uprooting to wherever that job may be to have the baby, i.e. two moves before birth.
If we go back in September, we have very little support, only a couple of friends who would be willing to help look after our son, probably only during birth time (I was hospitalised for 3 weeks last time). But we would be able to save a little more money (though not much once I have to stop working), and I wouldn't have the stress of moving country to cope with.
Any thoughts much appreciated
Dec 15th 2006, 7:25 am
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Originally Posted by TheVickers
I would go home, I can only speak from personal experience but having that network of family & friends is invaluable when you have a baby.
Jo x
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My Dad was alive at the time and I am so glad he was around to help .My Mum and Dad were great.
I am so glad I was not stuck out here at the time.
I think its really a precious thing to have grandparents I just wish my Dad was still around I miss him so much.
I am going back as soon as I can as I don't want to spend another moment away from my Mum.
Good Luck on your decision.
Dec 15th 2006, 10:17 am
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Originally Posted by Rosie Cheeks
Hello
You also need to have a blood test that runs in conjunction the the Nuchal Translucency scan. This blood test has to be done a specific number of days prior to the scan being carried out. The blood test results and the scan results are used together to produce a number which indicates your risk.
I hope your GP explained this to you and has given you the blood test form aswell. You also need to be aware that not all pathology companies carry out this blood test and when you enquire, make a booking with them and tell them what it is for. And they need to know where you are going for the scan as they have to send the results there.
It is know as a combined risk assessment, and it is an optional test, which the majority chose to have, but not all. There is a fairly narrow window as to when this test can take place, and if you are beyong the limit you won't beable to have it done.
I expect that this info will add to you stress, but it isn't intended to!
There isn't any point in having that scan without the blood test. It is also interesting to know that this test is a fairly recent addition to the obstetric world.
You also need to have a blood test that runs in conjunction the the Nuchal Translucency scan. This blood test has to be done a specific number of days prior to the scan being carried out. The blood test results and the scan results are used together to produce a number which indicates your risk.
I hope your GP explained this to you and has given you the blood test form aswell. You also need to be aware that not all pathology companies carry out this blood test and when you enquire, make a booking with them and tell them what it is for. And they need to know where you are going for the scan as they have to send the results there.
It is know as a combined risk assessment, and it is an optional test, which the majority chose to have, but not all. There is a fairly narrow window as to when this test can take place, and if you are beyong the limit you won't beable to have it done.
I expect that this info will add to you stress, but it isn't intended to!
There isn't any point in having that scan without the blood test. It is also interesting to know that this test is a fairly recent addition to the obstetric world.
Well I didnt have to have the blood test before my NT scan. They were able to tell me from the scan that there was no risk.
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Dec 17th 2006, 8:20 pm
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Just a quickie re the blood tests. They are used with the results of the nuchal scan to give a combined result which is more accurate. You are given a 'risk' for Downs ie, 1 in 500. Mine went from 1 in 60 for Downs (I am 40) amended to 1 in 22,000 with blood test combined. It is reassuring but not a definite, like amnio is. Nuchal scans only are based on age alone...
Also, I am not in Oz but I had a blood test on the same day. Doesn't make any difference - just means you have to wait a week for the combined result.
Having a baby does tot up. I am flying back to the UK for scans and blood tests and have to pay privately for everything (£400 for 2 scans) as I don't understand/trust the Italain system. Good luck with it all...
Sarah
Also, I am not in Oz but I had a blood test on the same day. Doesn't make any difference - just means you have to wait a week for the combined result.
Having a baby does tot up. I am flying back to the UK for scans and blood tests and have to pay privately for everything (£400 for 2 scans) as I don't understand/trust the Italain system. Good luck with it all...
Sarah
Originally Posted by Mummy
Nope, nobody has mentioned having a blood test prior to the scan and I have no forms relating to a blood test?? Is the purpose of this blood test and nuchal scan purely to look for down syndrome? If it is then to be honest, I'm not sure that I would want it. If I found out that my baby had down syndrome then it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to me, and would that show up on the 20 weeks scan anyway? I guess it would be beneficial to know in advance that the baby had it so that you can prepare, but I wouldn't dream of aborting because of it.
Dec 17th 2006, 8:41 pm
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Hi,
I would just like to say that I just had my little boy here in Perth(he's 10 weeks old, planned c-section) and the experience was far better than my first birth in the UK (Wexham Park in Slough). So much so that I am breastfeeding the 2nd one due to the fact that I got so much help in hospital with it. My first birth was an emergency C section, 4 weeks early and I gave birth on Thursday morning and was back at home on Saturday lunchtime! (UK). They needed the bed - no help with feeding or in fact anything else. I only managed to feed for a week as I was so stressed out I just couldn't do it. I had my Mum there every day and although that was a great help, I still found the experience here in Oz far better. Hope this helps you and doesn's just confuse
I must just add that my Mum did come over here for 3 weeks the night before I had the baby to look after my 3 year old. It did help, but it's also stressful having people in the house when you have a new baby.
Jo
I would just like to say that I just had my little boy here in Perth(he's 10 weeks old, planned c-section) and the experience was far better than my first birth in the UK (Wexham Park in Slough). So much so that I am breastfeeding the 2nd one due to the fact that I got so much help in hospital with it. My first birth was an emergency C section, 4 weeks early and I gave birth on Thursday morning and was back at home on Saturday lunchtime! (UK). They needed the bed - no help with feeding or in fact anything else. I only managed to feed for a week as I was so stressed out I just couldn't do it. I had my Mum there every day and although that was a great help, I still found the experience here in Oz far better. Hope this helps you and doesn's just confuse
I must just add that my Mum did come over here for 3 weeks the night before I had the baby to look after my 3 year old. It did help, but it's also stressful having people in the house when you have a new baby.
Jo
Dec 18th 2006, 8:24 pm
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Originally Posted by Mummy
Hi,
Haven't posted on here for a while but still been reading.
I am nearly 3 months pregnant, and it was our intention to return to the UK in April. Now I am wondering if it would be better to stay and have the baby here and then go back in September. Now this is the dilemma.
If we go back in April, we have family to support us through the birth (last pregnancy ended in pre-eclampsia and emergency c-section, baby was fine though) and to look after our son during, before and after birth time. Downside of going back then is that hubby may have found a job before baby is due and it means uprooting to wherever that job may be to have the baby, i.e. two moves before birth.
If we go back in September, we have very little support, only a couple of friends who would be willing to help look after our son, probably only during birth time (I was hospitalised for 3 weeks last time). But we would be able to save a little more money (though not much once I have to stop working), and I wouldn't have the stress of moving country to cope with.
Any thoughts much appreciated
Haven't posted on here for a while but still been reading.
I am nearly 3 months pregnant, and it was our intention to return to the UK in April. Now I am wondering if it would be better to stay and have the baby here and then go back in September. Now this is the dilemma.
If we go back in April, we have family to support us through the birth (last pregnancy ended in pre-eclampsia and emergency c-section, baby was fine though) and to look after our son during, before and after birth time. Downside of going back then is that hubby may have found a job before baby is due and it means uprooting to wherever that job may be to have the baby, i.e. two moves before birth.
If we go back in September, we have very little support, only a couple of friends who would be willing to help look after our son, probably only during birth time (I was hospitalised for 3 weeks last time). But we would be able to save a little more money (though not much once I have to stop working), and I wouldn't have the stress of moving country to cope with.
Any thoughts much appreciated
Since you have less time than me have you begun the process of moving back?
I am really worried about staying because of my job- I have a one year old and I really don't think they will take too kindly to me needing more time off. I haven't even told them yet. If I stay I also feel that moving with a newborn will be more stressful than moving whilst I am pregnant (equipment, clearing customs etc)
but I am also really worried about the birthing experience in England- I have heard some horror stories (like some on this thread!!) but the fact is I don't think I can afford to have another baby using the system here with all the additional costs. I really hope it's not a case of you get what you pay for. I understand I won't get the hotel type environment but I don't want to sacrifice the care obviously.
I hope it all goes well for you and that we both reach the right decisions for ourselves
I think I know what I want to do (as I'm sure you do too) and this thread is just helping me in that i'm reading through and deciding what sounds good/bad.
Dec 18th 2006, 10:16 pm
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Originally Posted by Hayley
I really wish you luck with your decision- I am going through the same one myself but I'm in the US and my baby is due in August. I am really worried if I can pull off selling the house and packing up whilst on such a tight deadline.
Since you have less time than me have you begun the process of moving back?
I am really worried about staying because of my job- I have a one year old and I really don't think they will take too kindly to me needing more time off. I haven't even told them yet. If I stay I also feel that moving with a newborn will be more stressful than moving whilst I am pregnant (equipment, clearing customs etc)
but I am also really worried about the birthing experience in England- I have heard some horror stories (like some on this thread!!) but the fact is I don't think I can afford to have another baby using the system here with all the additional costs. I really hope it's not a case of you get what you pay for. I understand I won't get the hotel type environment but I don't want to sacrifice the care obviously.
I hope it all goes well for you and that we both reach the right decisions for ourselves I think I know what I want to do (as I'm sure you do too) and this thread is just helping me in that i'm reading through and deciding what sounds good/bad.
Since you have less time than me have you begun the process of moving back?
I am really worried about staying because of my job- I have a one year old and I really don't think they will take too kindly to me needing more time off. I haven't even told them yet. If I stay I also feel that moving with a newborn will be more stressful than moving whilst I am pregnant (equipment, clearing customs etc)
but I am also really worried about the birthing experience in England- I have heard some horror stories (like some on this thread!!) but the fact is I don't think I can afford to have another baby using the system here with all the additional costs. I really hope it's not a case of you get what you pay for. I understand I won't get the hotel type environment but I don't want to sacrifice the care obviously.
I hope it all goes well for you and that we both reach the right decisions for ourselves
I think I know what I want to do (as I'm sure you do too) and this thread is just helping me in that i'm reading through and deciding what sounds good/bad.Hi Hayley
I had both of my Boys (normal Birth, if you can call giving birth normal) in the Uk, Epsom hospital, my first 3 1/2 now they kept me in for 5 days (assisted Birth, also he had jaundice), and my second was born at 6pm on the Fri night and I was home at 10 am the following morning, (I would have gone home that night if I could)
I will say I have read some horror stories too, but for me the hospital/birth /Nurses were all fantastic. and my aftercare, Midwife every day for 10 days then Health Visitor 1-2 week for 8 weeks. I think it is all individual experiences, Areas etc.
I would not worry about having your baby in the UK...
Sandra
Dec 18th 2006, 10:22 pm
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Originally Posted by sandrainaus
Hi Hayley
I had both of my Boys (normal Birth, if you can call giving birth normal) in the Uk, Epsom hospital, my first 3 1/2 now they kept me in for 5 days (assisted Birth, also he had jaundice), and my second was born at 6pm on the Fri night and I was home at 10 am the following morning, (I would have gone home that night if I could)
I will say I have read some horror stories too, but for me the hospital/birth /Nurses were all fantastic. and my aftercare, Midwife every day for 10 days then Health Visitor 1-2 week for 8 weeks. I think it is all individual experiences, Areas etc.
I would not worry about having your baby in the UK...
Sandra
I had both of my Boys (normal Birth, if you can call giving birth normal) in the Uk, Epsom hospital, my first 3 1/2 now they kept me in for 5 days (assisted Birth, also he had jaundice), and my second was born at 6pm on the Fri night and I was home at 10 am the following morning, (I would have gone home that night if I could)
I will say I have read some horror stories too, but for me the hospital/birth /Nurses were all fantastic. and my aftercare, Midwife every day for 10 days then Health Visitor 1-2 week for 8 weeks. I think it is all individual experiences, Areas etc.
I would not worry about having your baby in the UK...
Sandra
Dec 18th 2006, 10:30 pm
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Originally Posted by Hayley
Thanks Sandra- this is good to hear. i'm hearing more and more positives as time goes on. I really want to be in a place one day where I am looking back and saying- wow what was I worried about?
Dec 18th 2006, 10:31 pm
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Originally Posted by northernbird
you get good and bad everywhere. my eldest born in england at Bedford, no probs home the day after and excellent after care. 2nd born in canada 2 day labour, emergency section, home within 24 hours and no after care bloody awful.
Dec 18th 2006, 10:48 pm
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[QUOTE=Hayley]I really wish you luck with your decision- I am going through the same one myself but I'm in the US and my baby is due in August. I am really worried if I can pull off selling the house and packing up whilst on such a tight deadline.
Since you have less time than me have you begun the process of moving back?
If I stay I also feel that moving with a newborn will be more stressful than moving whilst I am pregnant (equipment, clearing customs etc)
Hi
I am expecting a baby in July and am currently in NZ (have already posted about this so won't bore you!). My family think that I should stay here, get permanent residency (husband NZ citizen) and give husband 18 months in his new career (but he also has some time in the uK - property area). They say it is too short to arrange to come back to the UK from Jan-April when would need to leave. All these things that took ages to set up here in NZ would need to be undone and set up again in the UK. I too feel I would rather travel while 24 weeks pregnant than with a 5 month old but that is because I find the whole pregnancy thing very scary (and exciting too!). I think that nothing is impossible really. My other family members (who have lived abroad in Aus) say that it would be better to be where there is more family support whereas parents say I would not see much of it and better stay here and wait for family to come out for a month or so...all swings and roundabouts.
I think that if you break things down into little tasks, it can be done - or we are hoping so if we decide to leave.
My friend just had a very positive experience having a baby at home and my sister in law had a good experience in Aus. ..just depends.
Fishpond
Since you have less time than me have you begun the process of moving back?
If I stay I also feel that moving with a newborn will be more stressful than moving whilst I am pregnant (equipment, clearing customs etc)
Hi
I am expecting a baby in July and am currently in NZ (have already posted about this so won't bore you!). My family think that I should stay here, get permanent residency (husband NZ citizen) and give husband 18 months in his new career (but he also has some time in the uK - property area). They say it is too short to arrange to come back to the UK from Jan-April when would need to leave. All these things that took ages to set up here in NZ would need to be undone and set up again in the UK. I too feel I would rather travel while 24 weeks pregnant than with a 5 month old but that is because I find the whole pregnancy thing very scary (and exciting too!). I think that nothing is impossible really. My other family members (who have lived abroad in Aus) say that it would be better to be where there is more family support whereas parents say I would not see much of it and better stay here and wait for family to come out for a month or so...all swings and roundabouts.
I think that if you break things down into little tasks, it can be done - or we are hoping so if we decide to leave.
My friend just had a very positive experience having a baby at home and my sister in law had a good experience in Aus. ..just depends.
Fishpond
Dec 18th 2006, 10:57 pm
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Originally Posted by Hayley
Well I'm moving back to Rushden so perhaps I can have hubs drive me to bedford instead of kettering?
Dec 18th 2006, 11:07 pm
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Originally Posted by northernbird
I would say packing and moving with a newborn would be easier, I could barely move when pregnant. My husband got transferred from Calgary to Halifax when I was 8 months pregnant with my now 4 year old. I had her on the Saturday, home on Sunday and husband was gone from Calgary by Tuesday. I moved 2 weeks later, I packed up a 4 bed house after a section whilst also looking after 2 kids. Things are possible, just not always easy but hey life isn't easy sometimes.
I'm just speaking from my own experiences here. I'm really tall and so when I had my son he grew up into my back (it's the same with my mum and sister) so I was still in my jeans at 8 months and v. mobile.
However as I am going to nurse with my new baby I feel it will be too hard to move frozen milk or to even stockpile a stash in the first place. For me I feel that moving whilst preggers is the best option.
Dec 18th 2006, 11:12 pm
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Re: Have baby in UK or Australia?
Originally Posted by Hayley
isn't that the truth- can't imagine being separated from my OH if only briefly.
I'm just speaking from my own experiences here. I'm really tall and so when I had my son he grew up into my back (it's the same with my mum and sister) so I was still in my jeans at 8 months and v. mobile.
However as I am going to nurse with my new baby I feel it will be too hard to move frozen milk or to even stockpile a stash in the first place. For me I feel that moving whilst preggers is the best option.
I'm just speaking from my own experiences here. I'm really tall and so when I had my son he grew up into my back (it's the same with my mum and sister) so I was still in my jeans at 8 months and v. mobile.
However as I am going to nurse with my new baby I feel it will be too hard to move frozen milk or to even stockpile a stash in the first place. For me I feel that moving whilst preggers is the best option.