Fiance Visa or Spouse Visa
#16
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In the eyes of the immigration officer who in many cases uses their judgement (although guided by rules) surely there must be some destinction between someone who's been married for 20 months rather than someone whos been married for two weeks. If that wasn't the case there wouldn't be a if you are married for 2 years then you get a non expiring green card rule.
COs look at the totality of circumstances for each case. What if you've got a couple like my pals in England, who have been 'together' for 15 years and have 3 children together and have lived a 'married' life without ever getting married. If they got married tomorrow, and applied for a visa the next week, it would look as if they "just" got married, but their circumstances would tell a different story.
What counts for the example you raise is what the couple do 2 years in. The form is I-751, the process is called Removing Conditions, and basically, you show that you are still married and have a legit relationship that was not solely for the immigration benefit.
#17
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I didn't describe it as simple, I described it as needing to be done in accordance with the law. If immigration was simple there wouldn't be a lot of lawyers making a lot of money practicing immigration law.
On the other hand, in simple situations immigration can be managed without a lawyer, as many people who participate here can attest. But that doesn't mean that simple situations don't require careful attention to following and meeting the legal requirements.
Regards, JEff
On the other hand, in simple situations immigration can be managed without a lawyer, as many people who participate here can attest. But that doesn't mean that simple situations don't require careful attention to following and meeting the legal requirements.
Regards, JEff
Last edited by jeffreyhy; Aug 19th 2010 at 5:27 pm.
#18
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Thank you for your suggestions and information. Just to confirm my fiancé is the USC and resides here on a Tier 1 Visa until March 2012, and I am the UKC – accordingly she cannot marry here without the appropriate visa.
We had thought about getting married in the US in order to file the DCF I-130, however we were unaware if the Tier 1 (Post Study Work Visa) allows for this or not? It is a 2 year visa just to confirm.
We had thought about getting married in the US in order to file the DCF I-130, however we were unaware if the Tier 1 (Post Study Work Visa) allows for this or not? It is a 2 year visa just to confirm.
Although the main negative with adopting the K1 route would be that I would still have to file for Adjustment Of Status after marriage within the US
Old timers here know I am biased toward DCF when it is possible. It's the only civilized way to approach this. Ours took 33 days from petition to visa.
On the other hand, the K1 would seem to take both less time than the DCF I-130 and allows you a 6 month period in which to leave to travel to the US to marry.
Al
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The K-1 was designed with a very specific situation in mind.
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Re: Fiance Visa or Spouse Visa
How would the tier 1 stop you from getting married in the u.s.?! I would say the only potential barrier to this is them thinking you will overstay. However that can be prepared for.
Alternatively you could get married in another country outside the u.s./uk. maybe mexico?
You could both return from that and just get on with the i-130 at your leisure!
Alternatively you could get married in another country outside the u.s./uk. maybe mexico?
You could both return from that and just get on with the i-130 at your leisure!
The immigrant visa is also valid for 6 months from receipt. I don't understand the obsession with "saving" a month or two in visa processing when you're living together and there is no rush to reunite in the US.
I think I am of everyone's opinion that the immigrant visa would be the best option for us and will do some further research into this I think.
In terms of if we were to marry in the US whilst I was on VWP - i have read on the forum and therefore assume that this is perfectly legal as long as you do not intend to stay to adjust status and have to take some form of evidence that you intend to return to the UK in case questioned at POE.
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Re: Fiance Visa or Spouse Visa
Hello,
I am very interested to see your question, as I was wondering the EXACT same thing. I am a USC, and would like to apply via DCF for a spousal visa for my fiancee ( huisband by then). However, I too am on a Tier 1 Post-Study work visa, valid for 2 years and expiring in jan 2012. I have lived in the UK now for a total of 2 years, and it is my permanent residence. However, I have no idea if I can file DCF or not. I even called that expensive £1.20 phone number for the embassy in London to find out, and got little help. I was told by the guy that "I cannot say exactly if they will let you apply that way, because it is a different agency that deals with that" and then he said that unless I had indefinite leave to remain, was in the UK as part of US armed forces, or had dual citizenship, he didn't know if I could file DCF or not. I asked him for contact details of someone who could tell me, so I don't waste time applying just to be told I need to file via USCIS in the USA, but he said no, I would just have to file and see. I personally think that's a bit odd, but what are you gonna do. SO now I don't know whethjer to even attempt to file DCF and likley waste a few more months, or just file in the states. So annoying how no one can give a straight answer there
I am very interested to see your question, as I was wondering the EXACT same thing. I am a USC, and would like to apply via DCF for a spousal visa for my fiancee ( huisband by then). However, I too am on a Tier 1 Post-Study work visa, valid for 2 years and expiring in jan 2012. I have lived in the UK now for a total of 2 years, and it is my permanent residence. However, I have no idea if I can file DCF or not. I even called that expensive £1.20 phone number for the embassy in London to find out, and got little help. I was told by the guy that "I cannot say exactly if they will let you apply that way, because it is a different agency that deals with that" and then he said that unless I had indefinite leave to remain, was in the UK as part of US armed forces, or had dual citizenship, he didn't know if I could file DCF or not. I asked him for contact details of someone who could tell me, so I don't waste time applying just to be told I need to file via USCIS in the USA, but he said no, I would just have to file and see. I personally think that's a bit odd, but what are you gonna do. SO now I don't know whethjer to even attempt to file DCF and likley waste a few more months, or just file in the states. So annoying how no one can give a straight answer there
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Gee, the same advice "that expensive £1.20 phone number for the embassy in London" gave her. You work cheap!
Regards, JEff
Regards, JEff
I'm happy to give you a straight answer! File. If the application is accepted, great... you're good to go. If it isn't, the entire file and fee will be returned to you and you can then file to the US. The worst that happens is that you're out a few weeks worth of time.
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#23
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I asked him for contact details of someone who could tell me, so I don't waste time applying just to be told I need to file via USCIS in the USA, but he said no, I would just have to file and see. I personally think that's a bit odd, but what are you gonna do. SO now I don't know whethjer to even attempt to file DCF and likley waste a few more months, or just file in the states. So annoying how no one can give a straight answer there
Maybe odd, but where do you get that you will waste 'a few months'? When are YOU planning to leave the UK anyway?
I'm sorry you are annoyed, but there is no straight answer available. Have a read of the DCF wiki (link in my sig) so you can understand more about the process (although I've thrown away the entry with the background info).
At any rate, learning the basic structure of the process will help you see why there are choices and bends in the road, and how most/all of them work to YOUR advantage if you position it correctly.