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mawood47 Oct 6th 2017 1:54 pm

Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 
Hi there can any one Help Marriage Visa 6 months just be rejected on many unfounded points, First I point out my Fiancee is from Kiev, the Visa is Processed in Warsaw where it is clear they have reject her Visa Application in option minor points, my immigration adviser completed the Application, when on the visa to give her finical statement Her bank was very low, the Adviser on the statement that she owned her own Property and there a large amount of her income was for the upkeep of the Property, and stated that myself would be Sponsoring all Funds to enter UK and there fore as nothing in The Vise Guidelines to state watt amount She Must Have
As any one got information which is given By UK Government Visa requirements thanks
digger47

christmasoompa Oct 6th 2017 2:35 pm

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 
Hi, sorry to hear about the visa refusal.

I've moved your post in to a thread of its own as you'd posted on somebody else's else's thread from February, so it may not be seen there.

Hopefully the forum members can help you figure it out, good luck.

j4v3d Oct 6th 2017 2:44 pm

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 

Originally Posted by digger47 (Post 12355029)
Hi there can any one Help Marriage Visa 6 months just be rejected on many unfounded points, First I point out my Fiancee is from Kiev, the Visa is Processed in Warsaw where it is clear they have reject her Visa Application in option minor points, my immigration adviser completed the Application, when on the visa to give her finical statement Her bank was very low, the Adviser on the statement that she owned her own Property and there a large amount of her income was for the upkeep of the Property, and stated that myself would be Sponsoring all Funds to enter UK and there fore as nothing in The Vise Guidelines to state watt amount She Must Have
As any one got information which is given By UK Government Visa requirements thanks
digger47

Did you get a refusal letter? If so, are you able to upload it on here or type it out so others can assist you - it'll give us a clear picture then.

spouse of scouse Oct 6th 2017 3:06 pm

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 
Is your fiance applying for a Marriage Visitor visa or a Family of a Settled Person (spouse/partner) visa?

mikelincs Oct 6th 2017 3:08 pm

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12355106)
Is your fiance applying for a Marriage Visitor visa or a Family of a Settled Person (spouse/partner) visa?

was going to ask the same question as the OP isn't very clear.

spouse of scouse Oct 6th 2017 3:17 pm

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 
If Marriage Visitor visa, these are the links to the requirements:

https://www.gov.uk/marriage-visa

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...sh_version.pdf

The following states what evidence needs to be provided to show that the applicant will be able to support themselves without public funds, or if their sponsor is supporting them, what evidence the sponsor needs to provide:
Financial documents showing that you have sufficient funds available. These must
clearly show that you have access to the funds, such as:
 bank statements
 building society book
 proof of earnings such as a letter from employer confirming employment details
(start date of employment, salary, role, company contact details)
 where a third party (who is either in the UK or who will be legally in the UK at
the time of your visit) is providing financial support to you e.g. a business, a
friend or a relative, documents to show they have sufficient resources to
support you in addition to themselves and any dependant family should be
provided


If your fiance doesn't have enough money in her bank account to support herself for 6 months, then you will need to provide the evidence that you can support her as her sponsor. Did you do that for the visa application that was refused?

mawood47 Oct 6th 2017 4:45 pm

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12355115)
If Marriage Visitor visa, these are the links to the requirements:

https://www.gov.uk/marriage-visa

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...sh_version.pdf

The following states what evidence needs to be provided to show that the applicant will be able to support themselves without public funds, or if their sponsor is supporting them, what evidence the sponsor needs to provide:
Financial documents showing that you have sufficient funds available. These must
clearly show that you have access to the funds, such as:
 bank statements
 building society book
 proof of earnings such as a letter from employer confirming employment details
(start date of employment, salary, role, company contact details)
 where a third party (who is either in the UK or who will be legally in the UK at
the time of your visit) is providing financial support to you e.g. a business, a
friend or a relative, documents to show they have sufficient resources to
support you in addition to themselves and any dependant family should be
provided


If your fiance doesn't have enough money in her bank account to support herself for 6 months, then you will need to provide the evidence that you can support her as her sponsor. Did you do that for the visa application that was refused?

Thanks for the replay: I accept that her bank had little money in and the person filling in the application stated that I was sponsoring her totally for all cost whilst in UK including Flights etc. But Pointing out that She had property as security's as if I at any time there was moneys she could get against the property A Loan say But still can not find details on How much money she should have in Her Bank if I new at time of application then I would have paid in to her Bank That Amount any thanks for helping digger47

SanDiegogirl Oct 6th 2017 4:48 pm

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 
What were the exact reasons for refusal?

Scan in refusal letter.

mawood47 Oct 6th 2017 4:57 pm

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 
OK could do this but take sum time as not sure on how to do these this
But today I have had a meeting with my MP John Hayes cons. and now after reading through the Resigns for Refusal and The Sponsorship statement He as concluded that they have maid a wrongfully Judgment unless I forward both documents that is the letter of rejection it will be come clear All I was asking was if Any one did now how much she should have in her Bank digger47

SanDiegogirl Oct 6th 2017 5:46 pm

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 

Originally Posted by digger47 (Post 12355202)
OK could do this but take sum time as not sure on how to do these this
But today I have had a meeting with my MP John Hayes cons. and now after reading through the Resigns for Refusal and The Sponsorship statement He as concluded that they have maid a wrongfully Judgment unless I forward both documents that is the letter of rejection it will be come clear All I was asking was if Any one did now how much she should have in her Bank digger47

OK then ..... type out the exact wording

For the marriage visitor visa the applicant's bank account does not count as so important. What is important is the applicant's ties to the home country and the risk element that they are going to return to the home country.
Also, proof that they are going to get married (correspondence with registry office/church/ Wedding reception details, payment of deposits on venues etc). Did you provide all this?

BEVS Oct 6th 2017 9:31 pm

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12355115)
If your fiance doesn't have enough money in her bank account to support herself for 6 months, then you will need to provide the evidence that you can support her as her sponsor. Did you do that for the visa application that was refused?


Originally Posted by digger47 (Post 12355202)
Any one did now how much she should have in her Bank digger47

Can anyone state please how much money she should show in her account please?

What the amount is set at to be 'enough'

Thanks

SanDiegogirl Oct 6th 2017 10:31 pm

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 

Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 12355453)
Can anyone state please how much money she should show in her account please?

What the amount is set at to be 'enough'

Thanks

There is no amount set out in official documents as to what is 'enough' with regards applicant's monetary resources. Applicant's circumstances are different and monetary resources are taken on an individual basis.

However, the only time an applicant's monetary resources are taken into account are for visitor or student visas - neither of which is the case here.

We don't know for certain what visa the applicant has applied for - marriage visitor visa or fiance visa.

In either case the applicant's bank balance is usually not what is most important - the sponsor's financial situation IS. Also what other proof of stable, genuine, ongoing relationship did the applicant provide.

Hence our request as to provide details as to what the actual refusal letter stated.

fah_83 Oct 6th 2017 10:52 pm

EEA Extended Family Member Visa
 
Hi Guys,
I need some advice. I applied for EEA Extended Family Member visa in October 2016. Which was refused in six months without appeal right. Home office say there is some spelling mistake in my mother name in birth certificate. I got updated birth certificate from NADRA alongwith Explanation letter from union council they wrote in this letter that THERE WAS SOME COMPUTER SOFTAWRE PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THIS THEY MISS PRINT NAME, NOW THEY ALREADY ISSUED UPDATED BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND RECORD ALSO BEEN UPATED. And applied fresh application but they refused again without appeal right and repeat same decision. This is only one objection in my refusal letter. I filed Pre Action Protocol but they maintain there decision. Now i am thinking for JR.
What you guys think what is my chances for winning this JR?
How long it take?
What more supporting documents i can add in JR?
Should i get any letter from High Commission for verification? ( AS THEY SAY IN PAP LETTER THAT THEY CAN NOT VERIFY LETTER AS ITS NOT ISSUED BY HIGH COMMISSION PAKISTAN IN LONDON) .
Please every little advice will be much appreciated as i am really stressed.
Thanks

spouse of scouse Oct 7th 2017 2:20 am

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 

Originally Posted by digger47 (Post 12355189)
Thanks for the replay: I accept that her bank had little money in and the person filling in the application stated that I was sponsoring her totally for all cost whilst in UK including Flights etc. But Pointing out that She had property as security's as if I at any time there was moneys she could get against the property A Loan say But still can not find details on How much money she should have in Her Bank if I new at time of application then I would have paid in to her Bank That Amount any thanks for helping digger47

Sorry, I don't know the answer to the amount of money required. I was just trying to make sure that you knew that you need to provide evidence of your financial ability to sponsor your fiance for a marriage visitor visa, if she couldn't provide evidence of sufficient funds to support herself. I was worried that you might apply again and get another refusal if this evidence wasn't provided, which would be very frustrating for you and a waste of your money.

I see that SanDiegogirl has responded that the amount of money needed isn't set. I can only guess that the Home Office would be looking to see that she or you had enough funds for her personal needs, food, travel/medical insurance, air fare etc. Also evidence that she has accommodation to stay in.

I think your immigration adviser is misguided about the sort of evidence needed. The Home Office won't accept your fiance's property as security against the financial requirements, the funds much be in cash and readily available. However, the fact that your fiance owns property in her home country is good evidence that she intends to return there, so that part's good!

I really think you need a good immigration adviser, someone who is registered to practice and qualified. Best of luck, sorry I couldn't help more.

mawood47 Oct 7th 2017 5:54 am

Re: Digger47's questions re: spouse visa refusal
 
I am closing this Thread as I think I received all the help from other all Members I noticed Bevs all so commented we have exchanged question's in the past my Main Site is Hungary but saddle unable to be there as often as I wish to be, but Bevs sold Lovasbereny at last, taken a 50% Loss But still have a small place close to old place, I believe my MP will resolve the Visa problem So again Big thanks to all members for replaying to my Question's best regard to all digger47





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