British citizen living abroad? Non-EEA spouse? This may affect you!
#31
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
I think the solicitor might be correct when he said you can't use Article 8 to decide where you want to live. On other forums, people have posted that in their own appeals, the judges ruled against them and said their right to a family life was not being abused, as they could still have their 'family life' in another country.
And so could the people who have fought against deportation. But judges still ruled in their favour.
#32
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
When they were talking about Australian and Canadian immigration rules,I did wonder if he would add medicals too to the new rules.
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#33
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
Yes, duration of marriage seems to have been ignored in all this. I mean, who'd put up with you for 10 years, just to gain entry into the UK? (When I say "you" I mean it in the general sense of course )
#34
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
The spirit of Thatcher lives on.
#35
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
Seriously though, having to find child care (tax decuctable) to watch my british kids while I go work would cost the tax payer more than letting her into the country as a stay at home mum.
And if shouldering the cost of foreign nationals is a concern, then why make it hard for her to work if she moved to the UK with her husband and kids. Makes no sense to me. by all means limit benefits, or require a guarantor, but preventing families from being together when 3 out of 4 are british makes absolutely no sense to me. There are better ways to deal with it.
#36
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
A wife and two children on less than about 46K, would mean that they can claim welfare for all the family through child related welfare payments as soon as they enter the UK, if only one parent worked. If both parents' worked, than the tapering would mean they would get more welfare payments to cover 70% of their childcare. Plus there is also the education and healthcare all 4 would want.
#37
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
But you do know full well that many will not be a "burden" and they still won't meet the income condition and there will be people who will draw upon the UK system precisely because they cannot bring their foreign spouse with them.
#38
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
Other western countries just throw those types out anyway and then pay a fine to the EU for going against EU law. It's cheaper than all the cost the UK racks up in court fees and keeping those type of people and their families.
Some EU countries even refuse EU fre worker movemnet rights to those who should have them as family of an EU citizen. The UK has got to stop being too fair. Each time it happens in the UK, it is just another nail in the coffin of the EU - perhaps that is the plan?
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
Interesting to see that on immigration (to the UK) forums, some non-EUs will get visas to the Uk and then work 2 or 3 jobs to get enough money to stay here and bring over their non-EU family. Why don't Brits want to do that for their non-EU partners?
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
Wasn't it you that said something along the lines - that it is damm right that you expect to up and retire to the UK with your foreign national wife and both be given free NHS (and welfare like bus passes, winter fuel, care homes etc). How is that not being a burden to the UK?
#41
Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
Aside from which, what if they cannot work, but will still not NEED to claim anything?
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
My wife now gets her British Old Age Pension. (Well, she would if she filled in the form and sent it back to the good folks in Newcastle.) So here is a person who receives a British Old Age Pension for life, but may not be eligible to live in the UK. (We lived & worked in the UK before 1991, but didn't get her citizenship when we left to live in the US. Obviously that was an error, but we didn't think the barriers would get so onerous for returning..)
Not a good time for trying to prove that you can get a certain income from a set amount of retirement savings, since investment & saving yields are historically low right now.
Not a good time for trying to prove that you can get a certain income from a set amount of retirement savings, since investment & saving yields are historically low right now.
#44
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
Wasn't it you that said something along the lines - that it is damm right that you expect to up and retire to the UK with your foreign national wife and both be given free NHS (and welfare like bus passes, winter fuel, care homes etc). How is that not being a burden to the UK?
My case, for instance. My wife & I lived in the UK from 1972-1976, and 1979-1991. We both worked & payed taxes all those years. We were eligible for NHS, but being young, hardly ever went to the doctor etc. Now we'll come back in 2013 (let's say) we become taxpayers again, so obviously become eligible for the NHS again. What's the problem?
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Re: Theresa May wants minimum income of £25,700; £49,000 if you have 2 kids
The things Blair did just to import more labour voters. Power hungry and money hungry is not a good combination.