Moving to the caymans
Jan 3rd 2017, 11:38 am
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Moving to the caymans
Hi all,
Just looking for some advice. I have been looking at jobs in the cayman islands (legal/clerical). I haven't applied for any as yet as I'm mostly doing my research just now. I am hoping to move out and work while finishing my law degree (study from home) I will be bringing my children with me (10,10,4,8months) I supose what I wanted to know is how long do people generally live on the island (I've heard about the 7 year roll over) is it possible for people to immigrate over and be there for life or is it more of a place where people come and live for a while and leave again. Would it be possible to bring my mother with me as she will be doing my child care (she doesn't need to work) any info will be greatly appreciated
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Just looking for some advice. I have been looking at jobs in the cayman islands (legal/clerical). I haven't applied for any as yet as I'm mostly doing my research just now. I am hoping to move out and work while finishing my law degree (study from home) I will be bringing my children with me (10,10,4,8months) I supose what I wanted to know is how long do people generally live on the island (I've heard about the 7 year roll over) is it possible for people to immigrate over and be there for life or is it more of a place where people come and live for a while and leave again. Would it be possible to bring my mother with me as she will be doing my child care (she doesn't need to work) any info will be greatly appreciated
Thanks
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Jan 3rd 2017, 3:18 pm
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Re: Moving to the caymans
Hi all,
Just looking for some advice. I have been looking at jobs in the cayman islands (legal/clerical). I haven't applied for any as yet as I'm mostly doing my research just now. I am hoping to move out and work while finishing my law degree (study from home) I will be bringing my children with me (10,10,4,8months) I supose what I wanted to know is how long do people generally live on the island (I've heard about the 7 year roll over) is it possible for people to immigrate over and be there for life or is it more of a place where people come and live for a while and leave again. Would it be possible to bring my mother with me as she will be doing my child care (she doesn't need to work) any info will be greatly appreciated
Thanks
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Just looking for some advice. I have been looking at jobs in the cayman islands (legal/clerical). I haven't applied for any as yet as I'm mostly doing my research just now. I am hoping to move out and work while finishing my law degree (study from home) I will be bringing my children with me (10,10,4,8months) I supose what I wanted to know is how long do people generally live on the island (I've heard about the 7 year roll over) is it possible for people to immigrate over and be there for life or is it more of a place where people come and live for a while and leave again. Would it be possible to bring my mother with me as she will be doing my child care (she doesn't need to work) any info will be greatly appreciated
Thanks
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The 7-year rollover is imposed because the local politicians don't want more expats than the Islands have already. There is a strong anti-expat sentiment existing in political and bureaucratic circles. If you really want to come here, you'd best come over by yourself and suss the place out, even before you start looking seriously for a job.
I'm happy to answer any specific questions you have. You should read "Cayman New Resident" on-line, if you haven't already.
Jan 3rd 2017, 6:45 pm
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Re: Moving to the caymans
Immigration Control. Not a new idea and not restricted to the Caymans !
Jan 8th 2017, 2:26 am
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Damn right, Scot! Our local government is particularly tough on illegal visitors. On orders from the British FCO (they are our colonial masters), any and all Cuban economic refugees who arrive here on their home-made boats on their way to Honduras are either hustled out of Cayman waters with no help or water or even medical supplies or jailed and flown back to Cuba. Where their escape costs them the chance to work in their homeland.
Honduras is the usual destination, because it's the only country in the region that does not return them to Cuba. Once in Honduras, the boat people join the underground track northward to The Promised Land. They reckon it's worth the risks.
Honduras is the usual destination, because it's the only country in the region that does not return them to Cuba. Once in Honduras, the boat people join the underground track northward to The Promised Land. They reckon it's worth the risks.
Jan 8th 2017, 9:42 am
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I can sense the Kipper4s salivating at the thought of having those unrestricted powers.
Jan 17th 2017, 12:55 am
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I'm sorry Gordon but if you are not an attorney you should not given immigration advice.
Firstly what you are correct about
I. Generally you do have to have a job before you can move here.
II. The level of salary you need does depend on your income. A good rule is you need $3000 per month to consider having any dependants and then $500 for every other dependant. So if you have 3 dependant children and no partner you need a salary of $4500 per month minimum.
If you want to have a partner come with you, you will need to get married.
Where you are wrong.
I. It is possible to move to the Cayman island for life. You need to invest $1.6 million in property and have sufficient funds to support you and your dependants without working plus spend $100 000 at least on the application fee.
II. It is possible to get a special care giver permit for your mother. But you will have to pay her a salary.
III. Roll over is after 9 years unless you get PR. This can only be applied for after 8 years. Having a job is a necessity to apply for PR and having a property does help.
There are many good immigration attorneys on the Island or Immigration Specialists who would be happy to offer advice.
Firstly what you are correct about
I. Generally you do have to have a job before you can move here.
II. The level of salary you need does depend on your income. A good rule is you need $3000 per month to consider having any dependants and then $500 for every other dependant. So if you have 3 dependant children and no partner you need a salary of $4500 per month minimum.
If you want to have a partner come with you, you will need to get married.
Where you are wrong.
I. It is possible to move to the Cayman island for life. You need to invest $1.6 million in property and have sufficient funds to support you and your dependants without working plus spend $100 000 at least on the application fee.
II. It is possible to get a special care giver permit for your mother. But you will have to pay her a salary.
III. Roll over is after 9 years unless you get PR. This can only be applied for after 8 years. Having a job is a necessity to apply for PR and having a property does help.
There are many good immigration attorneys on the Island or Immigration Specialists who would be happy to offer advice.
Well, first things first. You have to have a job before you can live here, and the number of dependents you can have with you depends partly on your salary - and partly on the whim of the Immigration Department. No, it's not possible to move here for life, unless you're granted local citizenship - although Permanent Residence is indefinite; that is granted after 7 years or so and purchase of a house. It's highly unlikely your mother would be allowed to come - although if she's rich enough she might be able to immigrate here in her own right.
The 7-year rollover is imposed because the local politicians don't want more expats than the Islands have already. There is a strong anti-expat sentiment existing in political and bureaucratic circles. If you really want to come here, you'd best come over by yourself and suss the place out, even before you start looking seriously for a job.
I'm happy to answer any specific questions you have. You should read "Cayman New Resident" on-line, if you haven't already.
The 7-year rollover is imposed because the local politicians don't want more expats than the Islands have already. There is a strong anti-expat sentiment existing in political and bureaucratic circles. If you really want to come here, you'd best come over by yourself and suss the place out, even before you start looking seriously for a job.
I'm happy to answer any specific questions you have. You should read "Cayman New Resident" on-line, if you haven't already.
Jan 17th 2017, 1:42 am
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I'm sorry Gordon but if you are not an attorney you should not given immigration advice.
Well, I guess you must be an attorney yourself, Jo - and one that specialises in immigration. Good for you, but I don't think that everybody on the internet giving immigration advice has to be a lawyer. If you look around, you'll see that the threads of this Forum are full of such advice.
II. The level of salary you need does depend on your income. What do you mean by this?
A good rule is you need $3000 per month to consider having any dependants and then $500 for every other dependent. So if you have 3 dependant children and no partner you need a salary of $4500 per month minimum. You may well be right, if that is what the Immigration Law actually says. I didn't want to get into that kind of detail.
If you want to have a partner come with you, you will need to get married.
Not quite correct. Marriage is only needed if one intends to claim a domestic partner as a dependent. There is no restriction on a domestic partner having his or her own job. At least, that's my observation of long standing. If you tell me that the Immigration Law says different, I will believe you, of course.
I. It is possible to move to the Cayman island for life. You need to invest $1.6 million in property and have sufficient funds to support you and your dependants without working plus spend $100 000 at least on the application fee. Ah, you are implying that Permanent Residency means "permanent". That's not true. Even Caymanian Status doesn't guarantee permanence; unless it is granted by the Cabinet, it is revocable for any of several reasons. Again, if you are an Immigration specialist you may disagree with me; in which case I hope you will tell us what the Law says.
II. It is possible to get a special care giver permit for your mother. But you will have to pay her a salary. Which would mean a Work Permit, presumably; thus, she would be immigrating in her own right - again, with no guarantee of permanence.
III. Roll over is after 9 years unless you get PR. This can only be applied for after 8 years. That's correct, at the moment. As I'm sure you know, there is considerable dissatisfaction currently about the rollover rules. The strong anti-expat sentiment existing in political and bureaucratic circles makes this a hot topic, and subject to change. Such change is very likely to occur after our next election in May. Until then, it's best not to promise anything too definite to prospective immigrants.
Having a job is a necessity to apply for PR and having a property does help. Again, PR does not guarantee lifetime residence.
There are many good immigration attorneys on the Island or Immigration Specialists who would be happy to offer advice.Yes, indeed - for a fat fee... British Expats Forum threads generally accommodate the opinions of amateurs. I'm not sure if you are allowed to offer your own professional services for a fee; you might want to check with the Administrators about that.
Well, I guess you must be an attorney yourself, Jo - and one that specialises in immigration. Good for you, but I don't think that everybody on the internet giving immigration advice has to be a lawyer. If you look around, you'll see that the threads of this Forum are full of such advice.
II. The level of salary you need does depend on your income. What do you mean by this?
A good rule is you need $3000 per month to consider having any dependants and then $500 for every other dependent. So if you have 3 dependant children and no partner you need a salary of $4500 per month minimum. You may well be right, if that is what the Immigration Law actually says. I didn't want to get into that kind of detail.
If you want to have a partner come with you, you will need to get married.
Not quite correct. Marriage is only needed if one intends to claim a domestic partner as a dependent. There is no restriction on a domestic partner having his or her own job. At least, that's my observation of long standing. If you tell me that the Immigration Law says different, I will believe you, of course.
I. It is possible to move to the Cayman island for life. You need to invest $1.6 million in property and have sufficient funds to support you and your dependants without working plus spend $100 000 at least on the application fee. Ah, you are implying that Permanent Residency means "permanent". That's not true. Even Caymanian Status doesn't guarantee permanence; unless it is granted by the Cabinet, it is revocable for any of several reasons. Again, if you are an Immigration specialist you may disagree with me; in which case I hope you will tell us what the Law says.
II. It is possible to get a special care giver permit for your mother. But you will have to pay her a salary. Which would mean a Work Permit, presumably; thus, she would be immigrating in her own right - again, with no guarantee of permanence.
III. Roll over is after 9 years unless you get PR. This can only be applied for after 8 years. That's correct, at the moment. As I'm sure you know, there is considerable dissatisfaction currently about the rollover rules. The strong anti-expat sentiment existing in political and bureaucratic circles makes this a hot topic, and subject to change. Such change is very likely to occur after our next election in May. Until then, it's best not to promise anything too definite to prospective immigrants.
Having a job is a necessity to apply for PR and having a property does help. Again, PR does not guarantee lifetime residence.
There are many good immigration attorneys on the Island or Immigration Specialists who would be happy to offer advice.Yes, indeed - for a fat fee... British Expats Forum threads generally accommodate the opinions of amateurs. I'm not sure if you are allowed to offer your own professional services for a fee; you might want to check with the Administrators about that.
Jan 17th 2017, 7:46 pm
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Re: Moving to the caymans
Well said Gordon !
jolovebee writes as if she is in fact an immigration lawyer , and if that's so then can she please confirm this ? If she is, then it seems like she would not be the lawyer I would consult with, as even yourself, who is not an immigration lawyer, has pointed out various flaws in her statements !
jolovebee should also bear in mind, that this forum doesnt purport to be a source of legal advice. For that, it would be expected that the member would go to a lawyers office and consult with a qualified lawyer. The forum can be an excellent means to get all sorts of information and advice, but you wouldnt expect a person to go ahead and make an important legal decision based soley on what he/she has read on this site.
Over to you jolovebee?
jolovebee writes as if she is in fact an immigration lawyer , and if that's so then can she please confirm this ? If she is, then it seems like she would not be the lawyer I would consult with, as even yourself, who is not an immigration lawyer, has pointed out various flaws in her statements !
jolovebee should also bear in mind, that this forum doesnt purport to be a source of legal advice. For that, it would be expected that the member would go to a lawyers office and consult with a qualified lawyer. The forum can be an excellent means to get all sorts of information and advice, but you wouldnt expect a person to go ahead and make an important legal decision based soley on what he/she has read on this site.
Over to you jolovebee?
