One year and expected to work 24/7 365 days
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Re: One year and expected to work 24/7 365 days
That's simply not true. If a shelf stacker at Loblaws is routinely paid $12/hour then, at overtime rates, he or she is paid $18. That is, for the overtime hours only, the shelf stacker is paid the same numerically today as I was as a new immigrant programmer in 1981. Programming rates today are higher than $18/hour.
Well that passed 5 mins of my time
I learned a harsh lesson and changed direction so all's well that ends well.
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Update from Ontario Human Rights. Employers have a duty to accommodate an employee's family status. Ontario's Human Rights were expanded a few years ago that classes more family members as caregivers - therefore employer's must make adjustments to reflect needs related to family status. My right to family life comes first. Each employer was trying to prevent me having a family life.
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Update from Ontario Human Rights. Employers have a duty to accommodate an employee's family status. Ontario's Human Rights were expanded a few years ago that classes more family members as caregivers - therefore employer's must make adjustments to reflect needs related to family status. My right to family life comes first. Each employer was trying to prevent me having a family life.
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...but they do care when it hits them in the pocket and that's why when human rights laws are broken they get hit hard with large fines and compensation. As for should they care, if they are human then yes. The whole of North America actively campaigns against China alleged treatment of workers (which is better than I've been treated here) so either North America cares or they are hypocrites. Not sure if it is related but since the human rights issue has been raised my ex employer is requesting a meeting to "hopefully bring closure" using their words.
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All decision's are made by humans just like the initial offer I've had today - all back pay plus 6 months salary to stop the complaint reaching a human rights hearing. I've already asked it be increased to 12 months salary and wait the response. The reason they make an offer is because the humans who manage and the shareholders who own the company have feelings - one of being to scared for this issue to go further because they all value the way other people see them. The corporation which is just a piece of paper has no say.
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The actual factor that is killing them is that very few women work in IT and the overriding reasons seem to be that it is family unfriendly and also women don't like working at empty offices at night and on the weekend.
So even the Ontario Human Rights people seem to be taking notice finally.
There isn't, contrary to popular belief, an inexhaustible supply of Indians willing to do this. They're human like everyone else and there is so much paperwork fraud with experience and qualifications that the overhead of actually finding competent people is very high - I speak from personal experience, I couldn't find a soul to help me with something I was working on a few years ago and the only guy who seemed to vaguely understand the subject I'm pretty sure was here illegally.
I'm sure ExKiwiLass has some interesting stories as I recall her saying she is an IT recruiter.
Ah... five minutes of time a programmer could have spent watching porn while waiting for the compiler to complete, which is something a shelf stacker at Loblaw's cannot do...
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Absolutely. That is the only reason. Well, that and having a valid record of complaint with the OHR will also weigh against them as well.
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The reason they settled finally at 10 months plus back pay is that if found to be at fault they would be forced to change working practices for the entire company and the result could affect the entire industry - and because they knew they would lose. Their business model would be crushed. I did not ask for compensation - they offered it.
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Eh? IME women represent at least half of the IT workforce. Representing them I find that I can't get the same money as for someone of a similar skill level who has a penis (regardless of the ability to type with it or not) but there's no shortage of women technicians, business analysts, data entry people, help desk staff, all facets of IT. Certainly I've met more Asian women working in IT in the GTA than cradle men (to pick two significant minority groups more or less at random).
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I have no idea where you get that idea from, imx they're pretty rare.
The state of women in technology: 15 data points you should know - TechRepublic
We Need More Women in Tech: The Data Prove It - The Atlantic
Time for IT jobs to be set aside for women - TechRepublic
And so on.
Those are not "all facets", those are the crappy facets.
The state of women in technology: 15 data points you should know - TechRepublic
We Need More Women in Tech: The Data Prove It - The Atlantic
Time for IT jobs to be set aside for women - TechRepublic
And so on.
there's no shortage of women technicians, business analysts, data entry people, help desk staff, all facets of IT
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The reason they settled finally at 10 months plus back pay is that if found to be at fault they would be forced to change working practices for the entire company and the result could affect the entire industry - and because they knew they would lose. Their business model would be crushed. I did not ask for compensation - they offered it.
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Re: One year and expected to work 24/7 365 days
Not many programmers on $100,000 a year. A lot will only get paid for 37.5 a week but be expected to work double that - and for around 50 - 60k per annum. Those in the sweat shops working unpaid overtime double their normal hours are effectively averaging 25 - 30k per annum. Most other occupations only class salary before overtime payment so hours above 37.5 should be excluded in the calculation. Stacking shelves in Loblaw's pays higher salary than a programmer after considering they get paid for overtime.
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