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Old Feb 24th 2017, 4:25 pm
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Afternoon all,

This is my first time posting and this may have been answered before but I can't see on another thread.

My wife and I are both teachers looking to emigrate and have been told by anagent that we have a fair to good chance through the express entry pool??? I understand that teaching is not a shortage skill in canada but I'd be looking to work as an instructional designer or lms specialist within a non education setting.

Making some very big assumptions regarding getting in etc I have a couple of questions:

1. How easy/difficult is it to get work. I have a legal/insurance compliance background as well as working as a teacher/instructor.
2. Do canadian employers have any issue with UK qualifications and experience?
3. If we are accepted as teachers are we free to pursue other professions?
4. Our biggest worry is it all going belly up with two young children and not getting any work after giving up jobs in the UK. We could muster around 30,000 dollars to go with, how long would this last assumming a normal lifestyle in a town rather than by a big city.

I know a lot of these are ifs and buts and without going into ridiculous detail it can be hard to assess but any advice is greatly appreciated.

Ps please excuse typos - typing on a phone is a nightmare

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Old Feb 24th 2017, 4:30 pm
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There are many posts that outline the difficulty that Canadian born and bred teachers face when attempting to obtain work. I suggest you do a search for them.

It is not impossible, but it is not easy either.

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Sorry perhaps I was unclear.

I wouldn't want to try and get work as a teacher, it's just my current profession, I've read the stories and realise it's a bit of a non starter for a while at least. I have a lot of experience in online instruction/design which is applicable in the business world. However could I pursue this if I declare teacher on the application?
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Sorry perhaps I was unclear.

I wouldn't want to try and get work as a teacher, it's just my current profession, I've read the stories and realise it's a bit of a non starter for a while at least. I have a lot of experience in online instruction/design which is applicable in the business world. However could I pursue this if I declare teacher on the application?
Once you are here as a permanent resident you can pursue what ever you like.

Canada has more teachers than it needs unfortunately unless of course you fancy the Northern Territories and a few of the colder (and more remote) provinces.

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Once you are here as a permanent resident you can pursue what ever you like.
It's the getting here that I can't see. Immigrants need a demand skill or a close relative or a huge pile of money.
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Great so I'm not limited which is good. Technically I'm an FE lecturer so teaching would be out anyway but I do have some skills regarding virtual learning which appears big in business in canada. Are there employers more likely to employ from abroad or is it just a case of being irresistible to an employer from this side of the Atlantic?

What's the cost of living like?

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Welcome to BE.

Cost of living will be about the same in the UK as a rough guide. Housing will be cheaper or more expensive, depending on where you're going to, and coming from, but day to day expenses are usually said to be about the same.

Rather than relying on what an agent tells you, I would double check your eligibility yourself. The essential thing is to check your CRS score, as said above you'd have pretty much no hope of a job offer or LMIA as a teacher , so you need to make sure you're scoring enough without a job offer.

Best of luck with it.
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I'll take a look - thanks

Are the CRS scores easy enough to understand or does it require some expertise? Also is there a golden number so to speak?
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It's the getting here that I can't see. Immigrants need a demand skill or a close relative or a huge pile of money.
They don't need an 'in demand skill' anymore, the list of occupations in demand was done away with a couple of years ago. Now they just need to qualify as Skilled Workers so they can enter the pool of applicants.

The tricky bit now is that only those that score the most are then selected from that pool and invited to apply for PR. So many don't stand a chance without the extra points for a job offer - hopefully the OP isn't among them but it's not unknown for immi consultants to tell people they're eligible just so they can get their money. Technically it's true, they are eligible, but the agents know that they will just sit in the pool without a hope in hell of being selected and neglect to mention that bit!
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Originally Posted by Rwley1982
I'll take a look - thanks

Are the CRS scores easy enough to understand or does it require some expertise? Also is there a golden number so to speak?
Very easy to check yourself - Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) tool - Skilled immigrants (Express Entry). You'll have to guess certain things probably, assuming you've not already done your IELTS exam etc, but you can just guesstimate now to give you an idea of your score.

And you need to be scoring approx 450 or over as a rough guide.

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P.S. just seen your comment above about having $30k. Is that just for setting up your new life in Canada, or for the whole move? If the latter, then it'll be very tight for a family of 4. This thread has some useful figures in - http://britishexpats.com/forum/canad...canada-735341/

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Thanks for the help, I've just done a quick check on the CRS and being a little pessimistic I got 451 which I'm guessing is borderline but not a disaster, I could improve my French and probably score okay. In respect to money it's set up cost and some living money. A job to go to would be main priority or some solid leads, it's all very chicken and egg.
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They don't need an 'in demand skill' anymore, the list of occupations in demand was done away with a couple of years ago. Now they just need to qualify as Skilled Workers so they can enter the pool of applicants.
Isn't a "skilled worker" someone with a skill that's wanted, they may not have a job title that's on a list of fashionable jobs but the overall picture is the same; an applicant needs to bring something Canada wants.
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Thanks for the help, I've just done a quick check on the CRS and being a little pessimistic I got 451 which I'm guessing is borderline but not a disaster, I could improve my French and probably score okay. In respect to money it's set up cost and some living money. A job to go to would be main priority or some solid leads, it's all very chicken and egg.
Ok, so 451 is fine and you should get an invite at that level. You can check all the score levels for previous draws on the CIC website, it's just started dropping a bit though.

The $30k would be ok for set up costs but you'd need to find a job pretty quickly! See the thread above for info. But once you've got PR you could delay the move until you've saved up a bit more or even possibly got work lined up before moving.

Best of luck with it! Hopefully those in the know will be along to help you figure out the answers to your questions later.
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Thanks for the help, the waters appear a bit less murky now
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