Wanting to move from YYC
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Re: Wanting to move from YYC
How did your move go? Do you still love it as much as before you moved?
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Re: Wanting to move from YYC
NL is a great place. (Despite the weather). It is beautiful, often in a harsh way, has unlimited ocean views if thats your thing. (I'd struggle I think to live far away from the ocean), friendly people, a climate that doesn't have the highs and lows of mainland Canada and more fiddle music than is healthy. It's also 3.5hrs time difference from the UK which becomes surprisingly useful in staying in touch - and in my case working with primarily London based colleagues. Access to the outdoors is easy - hiking, walking, ATV, Skidoo etc - 1000's of kms of trails and paths. St John's is a vibrant social city with surprisingly good restaurants and a legendary bar scene.
But....It's going to be more expensive to live here than YYC. Groceries cost more - they have to be shipped further & it's very noticeable when weather stops the ferries running that shelves empty quickly. Travel, anywhere is more expensive and involved than in YYC I'm sure. Getting to Halifax, for example is likely a $600 airfare r/t or a 12 hour drive, an 8 hour ferry ride and another 6hr drive. On the flip side, getting to London is a cinch with regular 4.5hr flights. Taxation is higher than AB & electricity rates are predicted to double in a few years when Muskrat Fails comes on line.
The economy is in a bit of a decline. It's very much Oil and Gas driven (like AB) so you know the impact that lower price of oil can have. Megaprojects (Hebron, Long Harbour, Muskrat Falls) are winding up which will release a ton of labour back into the market. The fishery is going down the crapper (again but probably more seriously this time) and the public sector is being cut back. (a necessary thing).
Property might be cheaper than YYC though - and prices have softened over the past year (2% decline). Can't speak for rents but suspect the same.
IMHO Success / Happiness is intrinsically linked to having adequate/good employment. So whether you want to move to NL, NS, NB or PEI, it's likely all around a job first. What do you do for a living?
But....It's going to be more expensive to live here than YYC. Groceries cost more - they have to be shipped further & it's very noticeable when weather stops the ferries running that shelves empty quickly. Travel, anywhere is more expensive and involved than in YYC I'm sure. Getting to Halifax, for example is likely a $600 airfare r/t or a 12 hour drive, an 8 hour ferry ride and another 6hr drive. On the flip side, getting to London is a cinch with regular 4.5hr flights. Taxation is higher than AB & electricity rates are predicted to double in a few years when Muskrat Fails comes on line.
The economy is in a bit of a decline. It's very much Oil and Gas driven (like AB) so you know the impact that lower price of oil can have. Megaprojects (Hebron, Long Harbour, Muskrat Falls) are winding up which will release a ton of labour back into the market. The fishery is going down the crapper (again but probably more seriously this time) and the public sector is being cut back. (a necessary thing).
Property might be cheaper than YYC though - and prices have softened over the past year (2% decline). Can't speak for rents but suspect the same.
IMHO Success / Happiness is intrinsically linked to having adequate/good employment. So whether you want to move to NL, NS, NB or PEI, it's likely all around a job first. What do you do for a living?
My husband and I both grew up on the SE coast of England and I know that I particularly struggle with being away from the ocean. I often find myself feeling trapped being in AB.
That time difference sounds very appealing. Would definitely make it so much easier to stay in touch.
That sucks about the groceries. I thought they were excessively expensive here! Travel I'm not AS concerned with. I'd mostly be going to London anyway or at least that's my biggest concern and then it's usually relatively easy and cheap to get elsewhere from London so the short flight is definitely appealing.
The economy seems to be in a decline everywhere unfortunately. As you say with the fishing over there, I don't think oil and gas is ever going to get to where it once was. Everyone here says the economy over on the east coast is absolute trash but I can never decide if that's just the greedy oil money mentality or if it really is that bad.
Property is quite expensive here for sure. From a quick browse on real estate sites it looks like we would be able to afford a great house with the sale from our current one.
I currently work for Alberta Health Services in a clerk type position but I'm on the edge of starting my own photography business, which even once started properly likely won't make much money for a good few years.
I partially agree with you on the job front for happiness.
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Re: Wanting to move from YYC
We moved to NS last year, and I can honestly say that it was the biggest mistake we have ever made! Stay in Calgary; even in a recession it has more going for it than any of the maritime cities. Plus, there is the much-reported doctor shortage, appalling state of the roads, and an older demographic (I am at the "older end" and all the grey-hairs put me in a funk!). If AB is getting you down, then I feel that the best move for you would be back to the UK, since almost everywhere else in Canada seems to be going into the crapper!
Nowhere in a recession is going to be good. I think it also depends on what makes you happy though. i.e. the style of life you enjoy living, what you like to do with your free time etc.
As far as I saw when I was back in Blighty the economy was in the trash and jobs were hard to find but it's a lot more expensive to live there. So would it really be better to move back there?
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Re: Wanting to move from YYC
I half eye roll when people from AB tell me there aren't any good jobs out there because if it were truly as bad as people from here make it out to be, literally no-one would live there.
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Re: Wanting to move from YYC
I work for Alberta Health Services in a clerk type position but it makes me miserable. The dream job is to start my own photography business, luckily something that can move anywhere but is also extremely difficult to start.
I half eye roll when people from AB tell me there aren't any good jobs out there because if it were truly as bad as people from here make it out to be, literally no-one would live there.
I half eye roll when people from AB tell me there aren't any good jobs out there because if it were truly as bad as people from here make it out to be, literally no-one would live there.
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Re: Wanting to move from YYC
I really like the sound of Halifax and wish to heaven I had moved to.a city with more than a handful of people. I am in NB and don't detest it, but dislike it, quite strongly on occasion and will leave when my son has finished his education.
The winter here is abominable. When I tell people in Europe that I can't see my neighbour's house over the snow banks....they laugh politely as they think I'm exagerating...but I'm not. The weather doesn't do anything half heartedly here...if it rains it buckets or it's boiling hot or freezing...the snow generally hangs about until the end of April.
If you are having mental health issues in Alberta, for heaven's sake don't bring them to NB...half of this Province seems to be permanently depressed and the other half is not far behind.
Very best of luck
The winter here is abominable. When I tell people in Europe that I can't see my neighbour's house over the snow banks....they laugh politely as they think I'm exagerating...but I'm not. The weather doesn't do anything half heartedly here...if it rains it buckets or it's boiling hot or freezing...the snow generally hangs about until the end of April.
If you are having mental health issues in Alberta, for heaven's sake don't bring them to NB...half of this Province seems to be permanently depressed and the other half is not far behind.
Very best of luck
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Re: Wanting to move from YYC
I know! If I were going to do it full time, it would take me years to get to that point. Hopefully with enough hustle in the right direction, I'll be able to make it work
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Re: Wanting to move from YYC
I really like the sound of Halifax and wish to heaven I had moved to.a city with more than a handful of people. I am in NB and don't detest it, but dislike it, quite strongly on occasion and will leave when my son has finished his education.
The winter here is abominable. When I tell people in Europe that I can't see my neighbour's house over the snow banks....they laugh politely as they think I'm exagerating...but I'm not. The weather doesn't do anything half heartedly here...if it rains it buckets or it's boiling hot or freezing...the snow generally hangs about until the end of April.
If you are having mental health issues in Alberta, for heaven's sake don't bring them to NB...half of this Province seems to be permanently depressed and the other half is not far behind.
Very best of luck
The winter here is abominable. When I tell people in Europe that I can't see my neighbour's house over the snow banks....they laugh politely as they think I'm exagerating...but I'm not. The weather doesn't do anything half heartedly here...if it rains it buckets or it's boiling hot or freezing...the snow generally hangs about until the end of April.
If you are having mental health issues in Alberta, for heaven's sake don't bring them to NB...half of this Province seems to be permanently depressed and the other half is not far behind.
Very best of luck
Oh wow, that weather sounds insane!
Thankfully, I'm getting better. Sounds like that place needs some life thrust back into it.
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Re: Wanting to move from YYC
Fredericton talks about change and can initiate studies and discussion groups in a heatbeat but there is remarkably little interest in modernization...they are proud that something has 'always been done that way'.
It's hard to have a broad based discussion on any subject because generally its just so very parochial. It just damps down your spirit a bit.
The weather is insane...an excellent word for it.
On a good note, I know all of my neighbours we all do things for one another...but that being said, I've always known my neighbours, it's unthinkable not to.
I have friends who hail from many other parts of Canada and even a New Zealand friend who had her kids in Moncton and they all tell me that Fredericton is a cliquey unfriendly place and is very unrepresentative of Canada.
So I live in hopes for the future...and so must you Kooksty
#28
Re: Wanting to move from YYC
The Maritimes have a crappy economy (except possibly NL if you want to work on an oil rig) way higher taxes and much crappier infrastructure. Plus if you're really lucky, you get hit with a hurricane. Everyone moved from there to here or Toronto so not sure why you would want to move there.
If you want to move to the GTA or Ottawa there might be some sense to that but I don't think you'll like the traffic in the GTA.
If you want to move to the GTA or Ottawa there might be some sense to that but I don't think you'll like the traffic in the GTA.
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Re: Wanting to move from YYC
I work for Alberta Health Services in a clerk type position but it makes me miserable. The dream job is to start my own photography business, luckily something that can move anywhere but is also extremely difficult to start.
I half eye roll when people from AB tell me there aren't any good jobs out there because if it were truly as bad as people from here make it out to be, literally no-one would live there.
I half eye roll when people from AB tell me there aren't any good jobs out there because if it were truly as bad as people from here make it out to be, literally no-one would live there.
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Re: Wanting to move from YYC
NS has more per 100,000 than any other province according to 2015 figures.
For several years the maritimes has come out rather well in comparisons with doctor availability.
2015. Canada per 100,000 = 228
Highest province = 261/NS. NL = 243, NB = 222.
Qc 242, On 220, AB 237, BC 232, MB 204
For several years the maritimes has come out rather well in comparisons with doctor availability.
2015. Canada per 100,000 = 228
Highest province = 261/NS. NL = 243, NB = 222.
Qc 242, On 220, AB 237, BC 232, MB 204