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TegenFowler Dec 29th 2017 11:17 pm

UK children’s intensive care nurse, can I work in Canada?
 
I’m a newly qualified children’s nurse in Scotland looking to move to Canada in 3-5 years time and I have no idea how I would go about finding a job or if I can even work with only paediatric qualifications? I have been reading other posts that mention needing additional training in other fields of nursing and undertaking a year of university in Canada for me this is not an option financially is it a necessity or is there areas that would accep only paediatric trained ? Thank you for any information form a confused and hopeful nurse

JGK Dec 30th 2017 2:48 pm

Re: UK children’s intensive care nurse, can I work in Canada?
 
If you know where in Canada you want to move to, contact that province's institute of nurses. They will tell you what you need to bring your experience and qualifications up to snuff.

I'm not a nurse, but it seems that the baseline over here is a wide general level experience before any specialization whereas in the UK, you can specialize at an early age (as you have). You may have to do a lot of additional stuff to meet requirements.

If you are thinking of heading to Quebec, you will need to be fluent in French to be able to work (even the you may find that "French" french and Quebecois arevery different beasts. Even in what they class as the "English" hospital system bilingualism is a requirement. Te Quebec order of Nursing (QON) site is ~97% in French.

burlys Jan 4th 2018 7:29 pm

Re: UK children’s intensive care nurse, can I work in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by TegenFowler (Post 12407206)
I’m a newly qualified children’s nurse in Scotland looking to move to Canada in 3-5 years time and I have no idea how I would go about finding a job or if I can even work with only paediatric qualifications? I have been reading other posts that mention needing additional training in other fields of nursing and undertaking a year of university in Canada for me this is not an option financially is it a necessity or is there areas that would accep only paediatric trained ? Thank you for any information form a confused and hopeful nurse

Hi Tegan ,
I moved to Ontario 20 years ago with RSCN qualification from sicks kids hospital in Edinburgh and was told I would have to do extra general nursing time and take the qualifying exam here .I actually went down another career route but it seems there is not the specialised courses here like in the UK eg for mental health nurses or paediatric nurses.Each province has different regulations and rules so worth checking that out too.

Siouxie Jan 5th 2018 12:08 am

Re: UK children’s intensive care nurse, can I work in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by burlys (Post 12411124)
Hi Tegan ,
I moved to Ontario 20 years ago with RSCN qualification from sicks kids hospital in Edinburgh and was told I would have to do extra general nursing time and take the qualifying exam here .I actually went down another career route but it seems there is not the specialised courses here like in the UK eg for mental health nurses or paediatric nurses.Each province has different regulations and rules so worth checking that out too.

There are specialised courses in paediatrics, but appear to be 'stand alone' courses rather than in place of an RN or similar nursing qualification, i.e. a 'continuing education' course.

There are also diploma programs for mental health nursing.

This website might be of use (links to Provincial bodies) Immigration Advice for Nurses Immigrating to Canada - FWCanada

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Silverdragon102 Jan 5th 2018 1:55 am

Re: UK children’s intensive care nurse, can I work in Canada?
 
But only 4 provinces accepts the RMN course. Many others require general training

Mamasmurf Jan 5th 2018 8:37 pm

Re: UK children’s intensive care nurse, can I work in Canada?
 
Hi, I am a paediatric nurse who moved to BC from the UK in 2002 (so the requirements may have changed), I lived there for 11 years and currently live in the UK but am looking to move back to Canada (NS this time). When I moved in 2002, due to my parents registration I had to do extra 'adult hours' about 6 weeks of full time work and a few written assignments. I sat the RN exam (which I think is now the NCLEX like the US) and was registered as a general nurse whilst I lived there but as I worked at the children's hospital I didn't use the general part 😁. As I say things may have changed in the past 15 years but as someone else has commented, if you know which province or territory you want to move to contact their registration board and they will be able to help you. Be prepared for much higher annual fees than the NMC and the process will take a while I think - you have to get transcripts of training, hours of practice etc. I am having to start the process with the NS nursing board and have to sit a jurisprudence exam which is a new thing since I initially registered in 2002 but having been registered in BC previously I am hoping the process may be a little easier this time round. If you want to work in a children's hospital here is a list of them across the country

Alberta
Alberta Children's Hospital (Calgary)
Stollery Children's Hospital (Edmonton)

British Columbia
BC Children's Hospital (Vancouver)

Manitoba
Health Sciences Centre Winnipeg

Newfoundland and Labrador
Janeway Child Health Centre (St. John's)

Nova Scotia
IWK - Health Centre (Halifax)

Ontario
Children's Hospital of Eastern Ontario (Ottawa)
Children's Hospital: London Health Sciences Centre
The Hospital for Sick Children (Toronto)
Kingston General Hospital
McMaster Children's Hospital (Hamilton)

Quebec
Centre hospitalier affilié universitaire de Québec (CHA) (available in French only)
Centre hospitalier universitaire de Sherbrooke (CHUS) (available in French only)
Centre hospitalier universitaire Sainte-Justine (Montréal)
Montreal Children's Hospital

Saskatchewan
Royal University Hospital (Saskatoon)

Hope this helps some 😁, good luck 😊

lauriet465 Feb 9th 2018 5:09 pm

Re: UK children’s intensive care nurse, can I work in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by TegenFowler (Post 12407206)
I’m a newly qualified children’s nurse in Scotland looking to move to Canada in 3-5 years time and I have no idea how I would go about finding a job or if I can even work with only paediatric qualifications? I have been reading other posts that mention needing additional training in other fields of nursing and undertaking a year of university in Canada for me this is not an option financially is it a necessity or is there areas that would accep only paediatric trained ? Thank you for any information form a confused and hopeful nurse

I'm a Scottish trained Child Health Branch nurse, I am moving to Canada (Ontario) in the next few months when my PR is granted. I specialise in NICU and have done for 10 years.

So far I have applied to NNAS, they needed my Uni transcripts, employers references & NMC registration. NNAS took 6 months for me, I didn't actually start the process for around a month after registering as I was figuring out what was required before paying for it and I also got married so it fell by the wayside... most of the time taken was chasing the Uni to get my stuff sent.

I got my report back from NNAS which was "Non comparable" - I was expecting that so it wasn't a surprise. They then told me to apply to the regulatory board - the College of Nurses in Ontario (CNO). I have done that and they have now told me I need to sit the Jurisprudence exam. CNO took around 2 weeks to contact me (I did apply over Christmas though).

I don't know where I go from here, it may be the NCLEX or it may be further study. All I know is that there is a lot of conflicting information as everyone seems to have had different experience, mainly depending on experience and what province they are applying to.

I'm happy to take it as it comes & I'll gladly take any job I can get in Canada until I can become an RN.

I will tell you that this is not cheap either! NNAS cost around £400 I think & then a further £100 for CNO. We also have visa fees on top of this & have to show £9100 in our bank account to IRCC when we applied/arrive in Canada... so if you're serious about going then start saving now!

I'll be happy to keep you updated on my journey though as I know how frustrating it can be to not have a simple answer :)

christmasoompa Feb 9th 2018 5:35 pm

Re: UK children’s intensive care nurse, can I work in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by lauriet465 (Post 12438598)
I will tell you that this is not cheap either! NNAS cost around £400 I think & then a further £100 for CNO. We also have visa fees on top of this & have to show £9100 in our bank account to IRCC when we applied/arrive in Canada... so if you're serious about going then start saving now!

And just to add to this, the 'proof of funds' amount is considered by most to be ludicrously low, most will spend far more than that in setting up life in Canada (plus the £10k or so just getting there). There are threads around with figures on but figure £25k+ for a family, way more than the amount CIC suggest you have!

So I agree, definitely save as much as poss, but far more than the figure given by CIC.

niccoll Feb 13th 2018 10:14 am

Re: UK children’s intensive care nurse, can I work in Canada?
 

Originally Posted by lauriet465 (Post 12438598)
I'm a Scottish trained Child Health Branch nurse, I am moving to Canada (Ontario) in the next few months when my PR is granted. I specialise in NICU and have done for 10 years.

So far I have applied to NNAS, they needed my Uni transcripts, employers references & NMC registration. NNAS took 6 months for me, I didn't actually start the process for around a month after registering as I was figuring out what was required before paying for it and I also got married so it fell by the wayside... most of the time taken was chasing the Uni to get my stuff sent.

I got my report back from NNAS which was "Non comparable" - I was expecting that so it wasn't a surprise. They then told me to apply to the regulatory board - the College of Nurses in Ontario (CNO). I have done that and they have now told me I need to sit the Jurisprudence exam. CNO took around 2 weeks to contact me (I did apply over Christmas though).


I don't know where I go from here, it may be the NCLEX or it may be further study. All I know is that there is a lot of conflicting information as everyone seems to have had different experience, mainly depending on experience and what province they are applying to.

I'm happy to take it as it comes & I'll gladly take any job I can get in Canada until I can become an RN.

I will tell you that this is not cheap either! NNAS cost around £400 I think & then a further £100 for CNO. We also have visa fees on top of this & have to show £9100 in our bank account to IRCC when we applied/arrive in Canada... so if you're serious about going then start saving now!

I'll be happy to keep you updated on my journey though as I know how frustrating it can be to not have a simple answer :)

Hello,

Ive just replied to you on my post, but I noticed here you mentioned about visas.
What route did you go down for the visa application?
Have you got any advice? When did you apply ans how long has it taken? We are deciding now when we should start applying for it, because we didn't want to do it too early and then it expires.

Thanks,
Nicole.

VAG Jan 30th 2019 10:45 am

Re: UK children’s intensive care nurse, can I work in Canada?
 
Hi,
I am new to this thread, well any thread, never been on a forum before.

I have just qualified as a paediatric nurse, UK, graduate Entry Masters, therefore have zero work experience as a qualified nurse. I have worked as a healthcare support worker for 18 years, many of them in a prison and theatres. I did do 2 years of adult nurse training from 2001-2003 so have modules in midwifery, learning disabilities and adult surgical and medical. I did not get the chance to complete due to having my children so took a credit transfer and completed my undergrad. BSc honours 2:1 through the OU. Followed by 2 years masters in paeds, with a distinction (however I am sure the grade makes no difference). Not sure I even stand a chance of immigrating to Canada but would really like to try and see what I could do to improve my chances. I am planning to apply to NNAS to get my qualifications assessed and then to the college of nurses Ontario to see where I fall short, is this the best route? Secondly, I need to write the IELTS but the CA website on immigration states they do not accept the academic IELTS for express entry, while NNAS only want the academic IELTS, any advice or experience appreciated.

Thank you
VAG

Phaedru5 Feb 4th 2019 6:45 pm

Re: UK children’s intensive care nurse, can I work in Canada?
 
Just a 'heads up' for nurses wanting to practice in BC - my wife is having a terribly slow, frustrating and expensive experience so far. She is Canadian born in BC, worked in healthcare as an LPN for 5 yrs before moving to England to live with me. Since being in England she has worked as a HCA, then did a full 3yr degree in Adult Nursing at Demontfort University Leicester, graduating with a '1st' degree as an RN, then worked as an RN in England on a surgical ward in a major city hospital. She applied to NNAS and NCLEX and all that stuff a year before we knew we were moving. We have now been here a year and after much chasing, assessments, being told different things and spending lots of money she has just recently been told she is non-comparable and so we are now waiting, some more.... , to find out what they recommend she needs to do to be 'upgrade' to be comparable.

She has a long experience in healthcare and tons of excellent references from employers and colleagues in both BC and the UK but none of it seems to count for anything. Oh and you need to be able to act, yes, like hollywood, because the assessments are make believe and they mark you more on your acting ability than on your knowledge, experience and references. It is the most dreadful and shambolic process I have ever had the misfortune to witness. And all the while we are inundated with TV commercials, radio adverts and newspaper articles about how desperately they need nurses.
My wife, a Canadian, living in Canada, with both Canadian and British experience, qualifications and glowing references, living 10 minutes from a major city hospital is down-trodden and at the point of giving up and getting a job doing something else. It is ridiculous and has almost overshadowed our joy of moving back here.


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