Ontario College of Teachers
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Re: Ontario College of Teachers
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Now a PR in Canada and have had my application for membership of the Ontario College of Teachers rejected. Obviously I can appeal but I have been told that I need to complete another years worth of full time study at undergraduate level.
Totally farcical. I have been teaching in the UK for the last 10 and a half years and 5 years of this as a Deputy Head Teacher. The OCT application does not even consider professional experience merely academic experience in the application process.
I am not looking for a lecture on this, just anyone with any knowledge of the OCT application process, successful appeals etc.
Cheers.
Now a PR in Canada and have had my application for membership of the Ontario College of Teachers rejected. Obviously I can appeal but I have been told that I need to complete another years worth of full time study at undergraduate level.
Totally farcical. I have been teaching in the UK for the last 10 and a half years and 5 years of this as a Deputy Head Teacher. The OCT application does not even consider professional experience merely academic experience in the application process.
I am not looking for a lecture on this, just anyone with any knowledge of the OCT application process, successful appeals etc.
Cheers.
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Re: Ontario College of Teachers
Teaching is a (relatively) well paid career in Canada once you have broken into it. That breaking in can take years & of course one needs to eat in the meantime.
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Re: Ontario College of Teachers
Hi
1. Don't forget in BC the recent court case win by the BCTF has the provincial gov't dumping buckets of money into hiring new teachers. $50 million this year. BCTF wins landmark Supreme Court of Canada ruling over B.C. government | Vancouver Sun
I'd hazard a guess that you could substitute Ontario in your post with Canada and it would be just as true. It certainly is here in Newfoundland. (My wife is a teacher) and I have a Brother in Law who could only get a teaching position in BC if he headed way north. (Terrace).
Teaching is a (relatively) well paid career in Canada once you have broken into it. That breaking in can take years & of course one needs to eat in the meantime.
Teaching is a (relatively) well paid career in Canada once you have broken into it. That breaking in can take years & of course one needs to eat in the meantime.
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Re: Ontario College of Teachers
I'd hazard a guess that you could substitute Ontario in your post with Canada and it would be just as true. It certainly is here in Newfoundland. (My wife is a teacher) and I have a Brother in Law who could only get a teaching position in BC if he headed way north. (Terrace).
Teaching is a (relatively) well paid career in Canada once you have broken into it. That breaking in can take years & of course one needs to eat in the meantime.
Teaching is a (relatively) well paid career in Canada once you have broken into it. That breaking in can take years & of course one needs to eat in the meantime.
Many people come to Ontario thinking it will be as easy to get a teaching position as it is in England but that's not the case. Even B.Ed education has be changed to 2 years rather 1 to lower the amount of students trying to go into the profession.
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/comm...ng-talent.html
Also for OP in Canada teaching in generally a 5 year post secondary level of education. In Ontario it has now been made 6 years, so I believe that was a fair enough assessment.
http://www.macleans.ca/work/jobs/two...ull-time-work/
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/02/21...rio-are-scarce
edit: oops sorry just read your whole post. The state of teaching in Canada is just so sad, people are having less children and the uni's keep pumping out graduates with little to no hope of even part time supply jobs for the next 5-10 years.
Also OP, I had a similar problem I am Canadian who moved to the UK. I did a 2 year accelerated Bachelor's in Nursing program here in Ontario and the NMC told me the length of my nursing education was inadequate and I was asked to practically re-train. I took it as a chance to retrain in a completely different career path which I enjoy now. Maybe you might consider doing the same? Or would you like to possibly to a B.Ed by distance education?
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Re: Ontario College of Teachers
edit: oops sorry just read your whole post. The state of teaching in Canada is just so sad, people are having less children and the uni's keep pumping out graduates with little to no hope of even part time supply jobs for the next 5-10 years.
Also OP, I had a similar problem I am Canadian who moved to the UK. I did a 2 year accelerated Bachelor's in Nursing program here in Ontario and the NMC told me the length of my nursing education was inadequate and I was asked to practically re-train. I took it as a chance to retrain in a completely different career path which I enjoy now. Maybe you might consider doing the same? Or would you like to possibly to a B.Ed by distance education?
Also OP, I had a similar problem I am Canadian who moved to the UK. I did a 2 year accelerated Bachelor's in Nursing program here in Ontario and the NMC told me the length of my nursing education was inadequate and I was asked to practically re-train. I took it as a chance to retrain in a completely different career path which I enjoy now. Maybe you might consider doing the same? Or would you like to possibly to a B.Ed by distance education?
Teaching. Nursing. Lawyering. All professions where if you didn't study or work in Canada it doesn't really count.
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Re: Ontario College of Teachers
Also OP, I had a similar problem I am Canadian who moved to the UK. I did a 2 year accelerated Bachelor's in Nursing program here in Ontario and the NMC told me the length of my nursing education was inadequate and I was asked to practically re-train. I took it as a chance to retrain in a completely different career path which I enjoy now. Maybe you might consider doing the same? Or would you like to possibly to a B.Ed by distance education?
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Re: Ontario College of Teachers
The OCT response:
As stated in Section A) of the credential assessment report dealing with Academic requirements you received, to be acceptable, the degree must be considered equivalent to a degree granted by an Ontario postsecondary institution. It must also represent a minimum of three years of study, or three years and four semesters of study if the program combines academic and professional coursework.
As Bachelor of Education (Honours), which combined academic and professional coursework, was three years in duration, this credential does not represent three years and four semesters of study in total, and therefore, it does not satisfy the academic registration requirement.
As stated in Section B) of the credential assessment report, we have allocated two years of your three-year Bachelor of Education (Honours) program towards satisfying the College’s academic registration requirement.
To become certified to teach in Ontario, you must complete five full degree-credit courses (equivalent to one year of full-time study) at an approved postsecondary institution.
I will probably be submitting an appeal.
As stated in Section A) of the credential assessment report dealing with Academic requirements you received, to be acceptable, the degree must be considered equivalent to a degree granted by an Ontario postsecondary institution. It must also represent a minimum of three years of study, or three years and four semesters of study if the program combines academic and professional coursework.
As Bachelor of Education (Honours), which combined academic and professional coursework, was three years in duration, this credential does not represent three years and four semesters of study in total, and therefore, it does not satisfy the academic registration requirement.
As stated in Section B) of the credential assessment report, we have allocated two years of your three-year Bachelor of Education (Honours) program towards satisfying the College’s academic registration requirement.
To become certified to teach in Ontario, you must complete five full degree-credit courses (equivalent to one year of full-time study) at an approved postsecondary institution.
I will probably be submitting an appeal.
If they still ask you to complete 1 year of further undergraduate education is it possible for you to do this through distance education? I know Athabasca university is a good option for this. I don't know of any uni's in the uk that may offer this
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Like mentioned above professional designations are hard to achieve as a foreign graduate.
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Re: Ontario College of Teachers
Oink is probably correct, and they will be unmovable on the requirements.
Best thing is (as Oink says) find all your past PD evidence and submit that to show progression. If not, you will likely have to do a bridging course of some kind. Can they specify what units exactly you are missing?
"Four semesters" is specified instead of two years because some people not take them consecutively (ie, someone may take a semester off etc).
Best thing is (as Oink says) find all your past PD evidence and submit that to show progression. If not, you will likely have to do a bridging course of some kind. Can they specify what units exactly you are missing?
"Four semesters" is specified instead of two years because some people not take them consecutively (ie, someone may take a semester off etc).
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Re: Ontario College of Teachers
Hey all.
I have submitted an appeal. It dawned on me that I had completed the Outstanding Teaching Programme in the UK which is accredited by the National College of Teachers and Leadership. I have contacted the various people and got that sent over. Whether it makes much difference, I doubt but for the sake of $99, an appeal is a no brainer.
I am considering enrolling into a online masters. It will easily meet the certification requirements and it will be an investment in myself.
I am also considering signing up as an English tutor online for Chinese based students to prop up my income.
I'll keep you updated with how I am getting on.
I have submitted an appeal. It dawned on me that I had completed the Outstanding Teaching Programme in the UK which is accredited by the National College of Teachers and Leadership. I have contacted the various people and got that sent over. Whether it makes much difference, I doubt but for the sake of $99, an appeal is a no brainer.
I am considering enrolling into a online masters. It will easily meet the certification requirements and it will be an investment in myself.
I am also considering signing up as an English tutor online for Chinese based students to prop up my income.
I'll keep you updated with how I am getting on.
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Re: Ontario College of Teachers
Hey all.
I have submitted an appeal. It dawned on me that I had completed the Outstanding Teaching Programme in the UK which is accredited by the National College of Teachers and Leadership. I have contacted the various people and got that sent over. Whether it makes much difference, I doubt but for the sake of $99, an appeal is a no brainer.
I am considering enrolling into a online masters. It will easily meet the certification requirements and it will be an investment in myself.
I am also considering signing up as an English tutor online for Chinese based students to prop up my income.
I'll keep you updated with how I am getting on.
I have submitted an appeal. It dawned on me that I had completed the Outstanding Teaching Programme in the UK which is accredited by the National College of Teachers and Leadership. I have contacted the various people and got that sent over. Whether it makes much difference, I doubt but for the sake of $99, an appeal is a no brainer.
I am considering enrolling into a online masters. It will easily meet the certification requirements and it will be an investment in myself.
I am also considering signing up as an English tutor online for Chinese based students to prop up my income.
I'll keep you updated with how I am getting on.