Newbie to Forum looking for help
Aug 4th 2015, 9:07 pm
#18
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Re: Newbie to Forum looking for help
Hi all,
all feedback is appreciated and as stated we are just at the start of the process and will take everything we can into consideration. obviously a lot of points to answer but in relation to the 'issues' we have here in the UK my main concern is the drink and drug culture (and yes before you start drugs are a problem everywhere)...In my view it is spiralling out of control here and this was hit home further to me when I started driving a taxi. There are no real community's anymore here and a lack of people who have respect for their communitys and want to contribute. The youth of today has zero respect for the area they live in, their parents, their own possessions even. The country has gone soft beyond a point where it can turn it round. We live in a quite affluent area and there is lack of investment in recreational facility's. More and more facilities are being taken away. We are simply mass producing houses to cope with a housing shortage but we do not have the infrastructure to go with that. Our road net work is not suitable for purpose, Yes added to this we have problems with migrants raping our benefit system <big snip>
all feedback is appreciated and as stated we are just at the start of the process and will take everything we can into consideration. obviously a lot of points to answer but in relation to the 'issues' we have here in the UK my main concern is the drink and drug culture (and yes before you start drugs are a problem everywhere)...In my view it is spiralling out of control here and this was hit home further to me when I started driving a taxi. There are no real community's anymore here and a lack of people who have respect for their communitys and want to contribute. The youth of today has zero respect for the area they live in, their parents, their own possessions even. The country has gone soft beyond a point where it can turn it round. We live in a quite affluent area and there is lack of investment in recreational facility's. More and more facilities are being taken away. We are simply mass producing houses to cope with a housing shortage but we do not have the infrastructure to go with that. Our road net work is not suitable for purpose, Yes added to this we have problems with migrants raping our benefit system <big snip>
Moving from the UK to Canada will not leave the disaffected youth/drink/drugs/etc etc problems behind. You might find they just get swept a little further under the carpet ...
I think you need to sit down & work out what *pulls* you to Canada, not what is *pushing* you out of the UK (See Paul Shephard's excellent posts for the "pull/push" theory).
Aug 5th 2015, 3:18 am
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Re: Newbie to Forum looking for help
I'm going to wade in here, but not for long, I remember feeling as you do, I remember the excitement of looking into emigrating and choosing a perceived better life for my daughter, 10 years on, the drug culture here is hidden quite well ie not reported in the headlines every two seconds, unless its weed, if it's weed, then doesn't everyone do it? Whats the problem?
We wonder why we didnt choose elsewhere in the UK, my daughter now 20 is looking at studying in the UK as she is finding life here a little bland, especially after 3 weeks in the Europe. We are researching a possible move to Ontario or back to the UK or a mix of both.
have a good read of the moving back to the UK section, we were all excited to move once, try to get a balanced view.
We wonder why we didnt choose elsewhere in the UK, my daughter now 20 is looking at studying in the UK as she is finding life here a little bland, especially after 3 weeks in the Europe. We are researching a possible move to Ontario or back to the UK or a mix of both.
have a good read of the moving back to the UK section, we were all excited to move once, try to get a balanced view.
Aug 5th 2015, 9:15 am
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Re: Newbie to Forum looking for help
Personally I'd say it's far easier to integrate and find a good community in the UK, particularly as you'll be the 'foreigner' in Canada.
And re: drugs/drink, I agree that drink is worse in the UK (again generalising), but do look in to the drugs issues in Canada (particuarly marijuana) before you think it would be better there.
I agree with everybody else that it's far better to move for the love of a country than the perceived negatives of the one you're leaving behind. Often you'll find that the same problems you're trying to escape are in Canada too, but without the support network of your friends/family, and being somewhere where it's all unfamiliar.
Would a move within the UK get you somewhere you'd be happier with? And save £25k or so as well!
Aug 5th 2015, 12:11 pm
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Re: Newbie to Forum looking for help
Like Piff Poff, I have children who grew up in, and grew up out of, Canada. I think that's quite common.
Aug 5th 2015, 6:32 pm
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Re: Newbie to Forum looking for help
Every time I start doubting that most government policies are driven by populism and hysteria, I just need to look at the graph.
Aug 5th 2015, 6:45 pm
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Re: Newbie to Forum looking for help
Not sure how mushrooms can hurt anyone, I have them for breakfast and feel fine.
Aug 5th 2015, 11:48 pm
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