"Moving here for the kids"
#32
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Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Re: "Moving here for the kids"
The acquistion of any skill may stimulate intellectual curiousity so being able to write is of potential benefit there. The lack of skills commonly held is a social disadvantage so illiteracy, albeit in the limited sense of not being able to read or write documents created by hand, is a disadvantage there. The presumption that children need not be able to deal with traditional written forms because they'll always have an electronic device to hand and will have no interest in source documents seems to me presumptuous; what if the child wants to be an archivist?
My analogy remains the use of a knife and fork; it's not strictly necessary to be familiar with that technology but I'd certainly prefer my children to have mastered it; even if they're living in Canada. I don't think anything is lost by being able to use real cutlery as well as a spork or chopsticks and I don't think any skill or knowledge need be sacrificed in order to learn to write.
My analogy remains the use of a knife and fork; it's not strictly necessary to be familiar with that technology but I'd certainly prefer my children to have mastered it; even if they're living in Canada. I don't think anything is lost by being able to use real cutlery as well as a spork or chopsticks and I don't think any skill or knowledge need be sacrificed in order to learn to write.
#33
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Joined: Jan 2014
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Re: "Moving here for the kids"
You, or I, or anyone, pretty much, can study for free.
Student loans are not providing free education.
#36
Re: "Moving here for the kids"
A lawyer I used to work with has written this on her profile: [She has a] Master of Arts in English Literature. The focus of her Master's thesis was gender constructions and subjectivity in sonnet sequences written during the Renaissance period.
Should taxpayers have paid the tuition for such a course?
#37
Re: "Moving here for the kids"
But she lives here plus, I've worked with a lot of Kiwi faculty and mostly their work is along the lines of UK thinking and is lightyears ahead of the dull stuff coming out of Canadian institutions. Mainly because any Canadian who shows the slightest promise is picked up by a US university or college.
#39
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Re: "Moving here for the kids"
So, do you prefer it that those that choose work (plumbers, electricians, etc.) over obtaining a degree pay for others to obtain a degree so that they can go on to earn far more? How many degrees should be free? The first one, the second one, etc?
A lawyer I used to work with has written this on her profile: [She has a] Master of Arts in English Literature. The focus of her Master's thesis was gender constructions and subjectivity in sonnet sequences written during the Renaissance period.
Should taxpayers have paid the tuition for such a course?
A lawyer I used to work with has written this on her profile: [She has a] Master of Arts in English Literature. The focus of her Master's thesis was gender constructions and subjectivity in sonnet sequences written during the Renaissance period.
Should taxpayers have paid the tuition for such a course?
1) The person who goes on to university can expect to earn more money, so they should be expected to pay for it. Personally, I think this is the short sighted view.
2) Compare any two countries where there is significant disparity over the % of people with university education. There is empirical evidence to show that country A (with more graduates) has a higher standard of living, collects more taxes, has a stronger/more stable economy, scores higher in qualify of life index, etc, etc.
A country benefits by having a better educated population, and should treat education as an investment in its own future.
#40
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Joined: Jul 2007
Location: White Rock BC
Posts: 11,682
Re: "Moving here for the kids"
Remedial job training free (paid by state).
Job training masquerading as higher education for high earning careers to be paid for by the trainee/employer/whoever, but not the state
#41
Re: "Moving here for the kids"
What about medical school? The equipment and supplies needed are are far more expensive than they can reasonably pass on to students in the form of tuition and fees.
#44
Re: "Moving here for the kids"
There are two ways to look at this.
1) The person who goes on to university can expect to earn more money, so they should be expected to pay for it. Personally, I think this is the short sighted view.
2) Compare any two countries where there is significant disparity over the % of people with university education. There is empirical evidence to show that country A (with more graduates) has a higher standard of living, collects more taxes, has a stronger/more stable economy, scores higher in qualify of life index, etc, etc.
A country benefits by having a better educated population, and should treat education as an investment in its own future.
1) The person who goes on to university can expect to earn more money, so they should be expected to pay for it. Personally, I think this is the short sighted view.
2) Compare any two countries where there is significant disparity over the % of people with university education. There is empirical evidence to show that country A (with more graduates) has a higher standard of living, collects more taxes, has a stronger/more stable economy, scores higher in qualify of life index, etc, etc.
A country benefits by having a better educated population, and should treat education as an investment in its own future.
#45
Re: "Moving here for the kids"
I didn't move here "for" the kids. I already had 2 and that was more than enough!