How safe is Canada?
Nov 20th 2015, 8:19 am
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Re: How safe is Canada?
I agree with el_richo that it shouldn't be something that you even worry about.
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Nov 20th 2015, 9:07 am
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Re: How safe is Canada?
If you're the kind of person that would live in constant fear, then NZ may actually be the best place. There are more murders per capita in Canada than in the UK (and presumably a lot more than NZ), so would you live in fear of that?
I agree with el_richo that it shouldn't be something that you even worry about.
I agree with el_richo that it shouldn't be something that you even worry about.
No, I'm not worried about the murder rates. Aside from differences in how crimes are recorded, the factors behind murder rates are usually regional or location dependant which a whole other load of factors being involved. Like any big city, we make a point of living in the safer areas and mitigate the risks. But you can't do that with terrorism in the same way as it's indescriminate.
Nov 20th 2015, 9:47 am
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Re: How safe is Canada?
No, I'm not worried about the murder rates. Aside from differences in how crimes are recorded, the factors behind murder rates are usually regional or location dependant which a whole other load of factors being involved. Like any big city, we make a point of living in the safer areas and mitigate the risks.
But you can't do that with terrorism in the same way as it's indescriminate.
The nutters are or can be anywhere, even your next door neighbour.
Living in fear that you may die from a terrorism attack is unavoidable, as is crossing the street, being struck by lightening or stricken with a deadly incurable illness. Live life one day at a time & trust your instincts
Nov 20th 2015, 10:15 am
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Re: How safe is Canada?
its really 'a coin flip', so stay put, don't travel on a plane, bus or train, or be in any restaurant, nor go to work, a grocery store, don't let your children go to school, even church going is off the things to do for the fear of 'what-if'.
The nutters are or can be anywhere, even your next door neighbour.
Living in fear that you may die from a terrorism attack is unavoidable, as is crossing the street, being struck by lightening or stricken with a deadly incurable illness. Live life one day at a time & trust your instincts
The nutters are or can be anywhere, even your next door neighbour.
Living in fear that you may die from a terrorism attack is unavoidable, as is crossing the street, being struck by lightening or stricken with a deadly incurable illness. Live life one day at a time & trust your instincts
In the same way, I've lived through one large earthquake, I now pay more attention to the seismic risk these days when I'm deciding where to live. Not just at the macro-level (i.e. what country/region/city I live in) but also on the micro-level, as I think about the actual risks associated withe the suburb, street and actual building I live in. And not just for earthquakes but also for risks like bushfires, flooding, burglary etc. For example I would never like in Vancouver as there is that Cascadia faultline off shore. It might or might not rupture in my lifetime but when it does it has the potential to be catastrophic. I have no desire to repeat the experience of being woken up in the middle of the night to a pitch-black shaking house and screaming kids in another room where I can't get to them. Other people might worry more about crossing the street and being hit by a bus. Others still might never set foot on a plane. I prefer to take the approach of knowing the risks and mitigating them as far as possible. In the same way I can chose not to fly with a blacklisted airline, or on models of plane with higher accident stats, I can also chose which city/suburb I live in and how I travel to work or indeed where I work.
Nov 20th 2015, 11:46 am
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Re: How safe is Canada?
Yes, absolutely it's a 'coin flip' but the odds are weighted differently in different locations for different risks, and the media only tells you so much, which is why I like to discuss the perception of people who actually live somewhere. It's not about living in fear, although I'm sure when I write in simplistic terms I can see why my questions might sound like I'm paranoid.
In the same way, I've lived through one large earthquake, I now pay more attention to the seismic risk these days when I'm deciding where to live. Not just at the macro-level (i.e. what country/region/city I live in) but also on the micro-level, as I think about the actual risks associated withe the suburb, street and actual building I live in. And not just for earthquakes but also for risks like bushfires, flooding, burglary etc. For example I would never like in Vancouver as there is that Cascadia faultline off shore. It might or might not rupture in my lifetime but when it does it has the potential to be catastrophic. I have no desire to repeat the experience of being woken up in the middle of the night to a pitch-black shaking house and screaming kids in another room where I can't get to them. Other people might worry more about crossing the street and being hit by a bus. Others still might never set foot on a plane. I prefer to take the approach of knowing the risks and mitigating them as far as possible. In the same way I can chose not to fly with a blacklisted airline, or on models of plane with higher accident stats, I can also chose which city/suburb I live in and how I travel to work or indeed where I work.
In the same way, I've lived through one large earthquake, I now pay more attention to the seismic risk these days when I'm deciding where to live. Not just at the macro-level (i.e. what country/region/city I live in) but also on the micro-level, as I think about the actual risks associated withe the suburb, street and actual building I live in. And not just for earthquakes but also for risks like bushfires, flooding, burglary etc. For example I would never like in Vancouver as there is that Cascadia faultline off shore. It might or might not rupture in my lifetime but when it does it has the potential to be catastrophic. I have no desire to repeat the experience of being woken up in the middle of the night to a pitch-black shaking house and screaming kids in another room where I can't get to them. Other people might worry more about crossing the street and being hit by a bus. Others still might never set foot on a plane. I prefer to take the approach of knowing the risks and mitigating them as far as possible. In the same way I can chose not to fly with a blacklisted airline, or on models of plane with higher accident stats, I can also chose which city/suburb I live in and how I travel to work or indeed where I work.
I expect we'll all die of cancer or cirrhosis or car accident. Death by terrorism or natural disaster is so rare that to alter one's life to mitigate the risk is like shifting one's bet for the 2016 Grand National from Barbaro to Shergar.
Nov 20th 2015, 11:52 am
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Re: How safe is Canada?
Yes, absolutely it's a 'coin flip' but the odds are weighted differently in different locations for different risks, and the media only tells you so much, which is why I like to discuss the perception of people who actually live somewhere. It's not about living in fear, although I'm sure when I write in simplistic terms I can see why my questions might sound like I'm paranoid.
I prefer to take the approach of knowing the risks and mitigating them as far as possible. In the same way I can chose not to fly with a blacklisted airline, or on models of plane with higher accident stats, I can also chose which city/suburb I live in and how I travel to work or indeed where I work.
I prefer to take the approach of knowing the risks and mitigating them as far as possible. In the same way I can chose not to fly with a blacklisted airline, or on models of plane with higher accident stats, I can also chose which city/suburb I live in and how I travel to work or indeed where I work.
On the basis to-date Toronto has not had a terrorist attack, makes it one of the safest places. Then suddenly out of the blue a terrorist attack in Vancouver or another Canadian major centre. Toronto is no longer safe place for the reason it may be next on the list.
Same with Australia, living in Sydney, a terrorist attack occurs in another Australian city. Do folks move cities, to the point of leaving Australia to somewhere that they 'guess' wont have an attack?
Worth a read in the link below to see if this would change anyone considering a move to Canada
EXCLUSIVE: Terrorist threat levels highest in Vancouver, Edmonton, Montreal, Toronto - National | Globalnews.ca
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Nov 20th 2015, 12:01 pm
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Re: How safe is Canada?
Any Brits in Australia should leave immediately... according to the following
UK residents warned threat of terrorist attack in Australia as high as in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq
"The UK Foreign Office has ranked the risk of an attack in Australia as "high" – the largest threat level – along with more than 30 other countries.
Australia was given the same threat rating as countries including Afghanistan, Libya, Kenya, Pakistan, Iraq, Spain and France.
The United States and China were deemed a lower risk, receiving the second-highest warning of a "general threat", while large parts of Europe were deemed as having an underlying threat or low threat."
UK residents warned threat of terrorist attack in Australia as high as in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq
"The UK Foreign Office has ranked the risk of an attack in Australia as "high" – the largest threat level – along with more than 30 other countries.
Australia was given the same threat rating as countries including Afghanistan, Libya, Kenya, Pakistan, Iraq, Spain and France.
The United States and China were deemed a lower risk, receiving the second-highest warning of a "general threat", while large parts of Europe were deemed as having an underlying threat or low threat."
Nov 20th 2015, 12:25 pm
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Re: How safe is Canada?
Any Brits in Australia should leave immediately... according to the following
UK residents warned threat of terrorist attack in Australia as high as in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq
"The UK Foreign Office has ranked the risk of an attack in Australia as "high" – the largest threat level – along with more than 30 other countries.
Australia was given the same threat rating as countries including Afghanistan, Libya, Kenya, Pakistan, Iraq, Spain and France.
The United States and China were deemed a lower risk, receiving the second-highest warning of a "general threat", while large parts of Europe were deemed as having an underlying threat or low threat."
UK residents warned threat of terrorist attack in Australia as high as in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq
"The UK Foreign Office has ranked the risk of an attack in Australia as "high" – the largest threat level – along with more than 30 other countries.
Australia was given the same threat rating as countries including Afghanistan, Libya, Kenya, Pakistan, Iraq, Spain and France.
The United States and China were deemed a lower risk, receiving the second-highest warning of a "general threat", while large parts of Europe were deemed as having an underlying threat or low threat."
Nov 20th 2015, 2:23 pm
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Re: How safe is Canada?
I think the risk of getting shot by accident in a gang drive-by is greater in TO than a terror attack, and the chances of that are minimal.
Nov 20th 2015, 4:33 pm
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Re: How safe is Canada?
It shouldn't be, but it is something we worry about as we've been directly affected by situations in the past.
As a student, I've been evacuated from Birmingham International train station while travelling through during rush hour on more than one occasion due to bomb alerts. I worked in London at the end of the IRA era and on more than one occasion I was faced with being evacuated from a main train stations on my way home from work, and stranded alone, amongst crowds of panicking people, in the dark at night for some considerable time until I could find an alternative way to get home. My husband luckily wasn't on the underground trains that got blown up a few years ago, but could so easily have been if he was running 10-15 minutes later. Even here in Sydney, my husband occasionally works across the road from the Lindt cafe (and ocassionally bought me yummy chocolates from) where the nutter held people at gunpoint late last year. I've spent quite some time frequenting that area of the city with my kids, while off visiting parks/museums etc.
With all of this in mind, I'd rather not live somewhere under constant fear of something kicking off. I know nowhere is 100% safe, and there are all kinds of nutters out there. I'd just prefer it wasn't something we need to get used to again.
As a student, I've been evacuated from Birmingham International train station while travelling through during rush hour on more than one occasion due to bomb alerts. I worked in London at the end of the IRA era and on more than one occasion I was faced with being evacuated from a main train stations on my way home from work, and stranded alone, amongst crowds of panicking people, in the dark at night for some considerable time until I could find an alternative way to get home. My husband luckily wasn't on the underground trains that got blown up a few years ago, but could so easily have been if he was running 10-15 minutes later. Even here in Sydney, my husband occasionally works across the road from the Lindt cafe (and ocassionally bought me yummy chocolates from) where the nutter held people at gunpoint late last year. I've spent quite some time frequenting that area of the city with my kids, while off visiting parks/museums etc.
With all of this in mind, I'd rather not live somewhere under constant fear of something kicking off. I know nowhere is 100% safe, and there are all kinds of nutters out there. I'd just prefer it wasn't something we need to get used to again.
Nov 20th 2015, 6:19 pm
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Re: How safe is Canada?
31-year-old woman shot dead outside Toronto club had just finished shift at nearby bar - The Globe and Mail
Still unsolved.
Toronto Police are too busy beating up innocent people.
SIU investigates after family alleges Toronto police brutally beat man who later died - Toronto - CBC News
Toronto police caught beating innocent man on video
Nov 20th 2015, 9:35 pm
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Re: How safe is Canada?
It shouldn't be, but it is something we worry about as we've been directly affected by situations in the past.
As a student, I've been evacuated from Birmingham International train station while travelling through during rush hour on more than one occasion due to bomb alerts. I worked in London at the end of the IRA era and on more than one occasion I was faced with being evacuated from a main train stations on my way home from work, and stranded alone, amongst crowds of panicking people, in the dark at night for some considerable time until I could find an alternative way to get home. My husband luckily wasn't on the underground trains that got blown up a few years ago, but could so easily have been if he was running 10-15 minutes later. Even here in Sydney, my husband occasionally works across the road from the Lindt cafe (and ocassionally bought me yummy chocolates from) where the nutter held people at gunpoint late last year. I've spent quite some time frequenting that area of the city with my kids, while off visiting parks/museums etc.
With all of this in mind, I'd rather not live somewhere under constant fear of something kicking off. I know nowhere is 100% safe, and there are all kinds of nutters out there. I'd just prefer it wasn't something we need to get used to again.
As a student, I've been evacuated from Birmingham International train station while travelling through during rush hour on more than one occasion due to bomb alerts. I worked in London at the end of the IRA era and on more than one occasion I was faced with being evacuated from a main train stations on my way home from work, and stranded alone, amongst crowds of panicking people, in the dark at night for some considerable time until I could find an alternative way to get home. My husband luckily wasn't on the underground trains that got blown up a few years ago, but could so easily have been if he was running 10-15 minutes later. Even here in Sydney, my husband occasionally works across the road from the Lindt cafe (and ocassionally bought me yummy chocolates from) where the nutter held people at gunpoint late last year. I've spent quite some time frequenting that area of the city with my kids, while off visiting parks/museums etc.
With all of this in mind, I'd rather not live somewhere under constant fear of something kicking off. I know nowhere is 100% safe, and there are all kinds of nutters out there. I'd just prefer it wasn't something we need to get used to again.
We tend to just "get on" & not think too much about it. Canada is one of the places we have lived without looking over our shoulders too much/too often.
If I were weighing up pros & cons for moving to Canada, threat of possible terrorist attacks wouldn't even make the list
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Nov 21st 2015, 6:03 am
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Nov 21st 2015, 3:46 pm
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