Commonwealth Petition
#16
Re: Commonwealth Petition
Cant see it happening, England has enough immigration problems stemming from being in the EU, I don't think they'll want to throw open the door to commonwealth countries too ?
Most modern commonwealth countries i doubt will want to open their doors to a large number of uncontrolled immigration either, a nice idea or dream but highly unlikely it will happen.
Most modern commonwealth countries i doubt will want to open their doors to a large number of uncontrolled immigration either, a nice idea or dream but highly unlikely it will happen.
#17
Re: Commonwealth Petition
[We] share the same head of state, the same native language, the same respect for the common law
We are most definitely not "basically the same people", all four countries have large immigrant populations and they're not from the same countries necessarily.
What he's arguing for was pretty the case until each dominion came up with their own citizenship, which they did in part to gain control over immigration. So they're not likely to want to give it up now.
And Canada is more within the US sphere of influence anyway.
#18
Re: Commonwealth Petition
Yes, I think geographical integration makes more sense than integration based on some common history from a long time ago. The UK is essentially part of the European trading block (EU and EFTA) and Canada is part of the N American trading block (NAFTA).
#19
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Re: Commonwealth Petition
I'm old enough to remember the to-do there was in the UK in the 1950s and into 1970s, when there was a much freer movement of people from Commonwealth countries into the UK
They were considered British citizens .............. hence the mass immigration of people from the Caribbean nations in the 1950s and 1960s
and the mass movement of East Asians expelled from Uganda by Idi Amin in 1972 ............ he ordered the expulsion of 60,000 Asians who were not Ugandan citizens but were mainly of Indian extraction, and most held British passports. This was later changed to include all 80,000 Asians resident in Uganda, except for professionals, such as doctors, lawyers, and teachers. Most of those with British passports, around 30,000, emigrated to the UK.
all carried British passports, or were easily given them .............
and the great British public got all mad ............. I well remember visiting England the year after, and hearing the comments from friends and relatives
the usual cry was "these people are taking our jobs"
no, they weren't ................ because no-one was working, or willing to work, at the jobs that many of those immigrants were willing to do.
I'd bet a pretty penny that the same cry would arise if this petition passed
They were considered British citizens .............. hence the mass immigration of people from the Caribbean nations in the 1950s and 1960s
and the mass movement of East Asians expelled from Uganda by Idi Amin in 1972 ............ he ordered the expulsion of 60,000 Asians who were not Ugandan citizens but were mainly of Indian extraction, and most held British passports. This was later changed to include all 80,000 Asians resident in Uganda, except for professionals, such as doctors, lawyers, and teachers. Most of those with British passports, around 30,000, emigrated to the UK.
all carried British passports, or were easily given them .............
and the great British public got all mad ............. I well remember visiting England the year after, and hearing the comments from friends and relatives
the usual cry was "these people are taking our jobs"
no, they weren't ................ because no-one was working, or willing to work, at the jobs that many of those immigrants were willing to do.
I'd bet a pretty penny that the same cry would arise if this petition passed
#20
Re: Commonwealth Petition
No we don't. New Zealand, Australia and Canada have large native populations of their own and what about Québec? Their law is based on the French civil code, not the common law.
We are most definitely not "basically the same people", all four countries have large immigrant populations and they're not from the same countries necessarily.
What he's arguing for was pretty the case until each dominion came up with their own citizenship, which they did in part to gain control over immigration. So they're not likely to want to give it up now.
And Canada is more within the US sphere of influence anyway.
We are most definitely not "basically the same people", all four countries have large immigrant populations and they're not from the same countries necessarily.
What he's arguing for was pretty the case until each dominion came up with their own citizenship, which they did in part to gain control over immigration. So they're not likely to want to give it up now.
And Canada is more within the US sphere of influence anyway.
#22
Re: Commonwealth Petition
He's talking about common law, so I assume that means Blackstone, Bill of Rights 1689, the Magna Carta-type law. Most of the UK and Dominions do have the same basis of law but Québec has a larger population than New Zealand and most definitely does not.
#23
Re: Commonwealth Petition
First they moan about people coming into the UK, now moan decades later about no-one wanting to let people in from the UK.
Sometimes I wonder if people are aware that the British Empire no longer exists. You wouldn't know it listening to Nigel Farage.