Canada vs USA?
#76
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I read Tirytory's post to mean that the person involved started work in April and had to battle to get some holiday time in the first calendar year. I know this can happen (Ontario). Two weeks per year is the norm, but you often have to serve the year before qualifying.
Anyway even if by law nurses are required to have two weeks annual leave a year, you're hardly going to suggest to me that's generous on a full time basis often on shift rotation are you? With kids off for 11 weeks plus a year that's a huge amount of childcare to cover...
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I prefer Canada and being Canadian, just for mentality reasons. People seem nice and seem to know or care about each other more, it's more a feeling of community. Canada is not always on the forefront of every political and international issue, thus Canadian citizens are not immediately under threat from various extreme political organization, ISIS, or whatever goes on in the Middle east. US Americans traveling may face more restrictions internationally, like going to Cuba or other places.....
Canada seems less extreme than the US, and even poverty in Canada is different to the US. I guess there is no, absolutely no city in Canada which can compare with Detroit.
The subject of gun violence or gun ownership in the US comes up a lot, however I think that this is more an attitude issue in the US. States which apparently have rather liberal gun laws, seem to have less gun violence or crime than others, so apparently the issue about gun violence is probably another one.
Health care is one thing, where Canada is at an advantage. It's cheaper regarding medication etc... and more available to a broader audience.
The rest is probably very personal, depending on job, career, private life, etc.... and possibly also the weather. Not everyone likes Canada's winter and not everywhere in Canada are the winters like in Saskatoon.
Canada seems less extreme than the US, and even poverty in Canada is different to the US. I guess there is no, absolutely no city in Canada which can compare with Detroit.
The subject of gun violence or gun ownership in the US comes up a lot, however I think that this is more an attitude issue in the US. States which apparently have rather liberal gun laws, seem to have less gun violence or crime than others, so apparently the issue about gun violence is probably another one.
Health care is one thing, where Canada is at an advantage. It's cheaper regarding medication etc... and more available to a broader audience.
The rest is probably very personal, depending on job, career, private life, etc.... and possibly also the weather. Not everyone likes Canada's winter and not everywhere in Canada are the winters like in Saskatoon.
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Not only that. Often UK workers get free sick days i.e. they are not deducted from their vacation allowance. At my last UK job, I reckon the employees were taking an average of 10 sick days a year. When I worked in Canada, sick days were taken out of my vacation allowance (same in the US).
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UK workers get it way too easy IMO.
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Yes, but there is less of a risk in a country with strict gun laws vs one with liberal gun laws. Cripes you can buy a gun in Walmart (gun - Walmart.com)
Michigan (Detroit Metro Area; its a dump), Ohio (was alright, like you said very similar to Canada) , Florida ()
Yep Gotta huddle up to keep warm.
I agree with you but my reasoning for not wanting to live in the US are the gun laws (this is the number one) , the constant intrusion and monitoring by the state (it happens in Canada and UK too I presume but not as bad as US. Especially in Europe where EU policy dictates, there are strict privacy laws in the EU) , and the lack of tax-funded healthcare.
Ooh, I didn't even know that. Eek. Looking forward to getting to Europe even more now.
That's your choice. I'm not sure where you have visited but the US is a vast country.
Canada is geographically bigger but the inhabited part is much smaller (mostly confined to an area with 100 miles of the US border).
I have lived in Canada and the US and traveled all over both countries. There are many areas I could live quite happily and many I would want to avoid - that goes for both. Overall, I don't think there is very much difference in lifestyle although the US is more diverse in terms of climate and geography.
Not only that. Often UK workers get free sick days i.e. they are not deducted from their vacation allowance. At my last UK job, I reckon the employees were taking an average of 10 sick days a year. When I worked in Canada, sick days were taken out of my vacation allowance (same in the US).
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Yes, but there is less of a risk in a country with strict gun laws vs one with liberal gun laws. Cripes you can buy a gun in Walmart (gun - Walmart.com)
Michigan (Detroit Metro Area; its a dump), Ohio (was alright, like you said very similar to Canada) , Florida ()
Yep Gotta huddle up to keep warm.
I agree with you but my reasoning for not wanting to live in the US are the gun laws (this is the number one) , the constant intrusion and monitoring by the state (it happens in Canada and UK too I presume but not as bad as US. Especially in Europe where EU policy dictates, there are strict privacy laws in the EU) , and the lack of tax-funded healthcare.
Ooh, I didn't even know that. Eek. Looking forward to getting to Europe even more now.
Michigan (Detroit Metro Area; its a dump), Ohio (was alright, like you said very similar to Canada) , Florida ()
Yep Gotta huddle up to keep warm.
I agree with you but my reasoning for not wanting to live in the US are the gun laws (this is the number one) , the constant intrusion and monitoring by the state (it happens in Canada and UK too I presume but not as bad as US. Especially in Europe where EU policy dictates, there are strict privacy laws in the EU) , and the lack of tax-funded healthcare.
Ooh, I didn't even know that. Eek. Looking forward to getting to Europe even more now.
#83
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Gozit don't let me down now.... It's not "free" time off, they just don't penalise you for being ill. To be fair to my employer I was rarely sick, and if the kids were I'd often take it as unpaid leave which is legal and fair rather than dock you holidays. Thank goodness the kids are a healthy bunch!
#84
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Mmm as an nhs employee if you got really sick you are well covered too, 6months full pay, 6months half pay. It gives you some breathing space. Some will freeload from it and take advantage of it which is of course is very wrong, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be in place.
I feel very vulnerable over here as a non working spouse and parent, with a husband who is self employed with none of the back up that we had back home. If my husband became ill over here even with some policies in place (for yrs actually) we would be in a desperate situation. I have really started to appreciate how good an employer the nhs was even though I moaned about staff shortages and cuts all over the shop.
I feel very vulnerable over here as a non working spouse and parent, with a husband who is self employed with none of the back up that we had back home. If my husband became ill over here even with some policies in place (for yrs actually) we would be in a desperate situation. I have really started to appreciate how good an employer the nhs was even though I moaned about staff shortages and cuts all over the shop.
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Mmm as an nhs employee if you got really sick you are well covered too, 6months full pay, 6months half pay. It gives you some breathing space. Some will freeload from it and take advantage of it which is of course is very wrong, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be in place.
I feel very vulnerable over here as a non working spouse and parent, with a husband who is self employed with none of the back up that we had back home. If my husband became ill over here even with some policies in place (for yrs actually) we would be in a desperate situation. I have really started to appreciate how good an employer the nhs was even though I moaned about staff shortages and cuts all over the shop.
O/T - so did you work out when you're heading home Tirytory?
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Middle of December. I've even given a start date to my boss just waiting to hear whether HR will let me go back to my department. I will be gutted if I get shipped out to another ward, but my boss says she's fighting to have me back so I'm hopeful!
Husband's business partners are also over the moon. Kids thrilled too and we've told my boys friends by FaceTime and they were so happy. It's right to take him home now before we lose our footings in our previous life..
Husband's business partners are also over the moon. Kids thrilled too and we've told my boys friends by FaceTime and they were so happy. It's right to take him home now before we lose our footings in our previous life..
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Middle of December. I've even given a start date to my boss just waiting to hear whether HR will let me go back to my department. I will be gutted if I get shipped out to another ward, but my boss says she's fighting to have me back so I'm hopeful!
Husband's business partners are also over the moon. Kids thrilled too and we've told my boys friends by FaceTime and they were so happy. It's right to take him home now before we lose our footings in our previous life..
Husband's business partners are also over the moon. Kids thrilled too and we've told my boys friends by FaceTime and they were so happy. It's right to take him home now before we lose our footings in our previous life..
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Well certainly your other half with citizenship would be well covered with the NHS.... Come live in Wales and prescriptions are free.... . How about doing the job you used to love in the UK?
I love home, I was never escaping anything to come here. I'm glad I've compared lifestyles- sort of- and I quess if having a boat and a big house were important to me we would stay here, but they're not. Ironically we lived by the sea, and a lot of the things we do here, we could do back home. Tubing/waterskiing/sailing ...I think we'll go home now with a different mindset (the only downside as far as I can see is we will have to go on holiday to Europe for skiing though, not really a downside )
I love home, I was never escaping anything to come here. I'm glad I've compared lifestyles- sort of- and I quess if having a boat and a big house were important to me we would stay here, but they're not. Ironically we lived by the sea, and a lot of the things we do here, we could do back home. Tubing/waterskiing/sailing ...I think we'll go home now with a different mindset (the only downside as far as I can see is we will have to go on holiday to Europe for skiing though, not really a downside )
#89
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Anyway that was my point, depends on where in that country you live, especially countries as large as the US and Canada.
I can't stand the place. I suppose that might have something to do with having family who live there.
I knew someone who lived in San Diego most of his life and he retired to a farm in Missouri and he reeled off all the things that were better about where he lived now than living in San Diego. It was much better than my list.
Anyway I'm ambivalent about the whole thing, I think overall Canada is a better place to live, but ask me again in January...
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Any which professions are they? It's a relatively simple question. I never did achieve, nor did anyone I know achieve, 5 weeks plus public holidays. I don't doubt that some do, but to suggest that 5 weeks plus public holidays is the norm is, I believe, somewhat misleading. The links I posted suggest it is too.